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Ebola Quarantine Center In Liberia Looted

samzenpus posted about 4 months ago | from the getting-worse dept.

Medicine 359

An anonymous reader writes The BBC and other outlets are reporting that a major quarantine center for patients who have been infected with the Ebola virus in Liberia has been looted and ransacked. Reports vary on the motive of the attack, but officials have confirmed that the Ebola patients are missing and that the quarantine center's medical supplies have been stolen. Officials say that the looters are highly likely to contract the virus themselves and worsen the epidemic further, as the WHO counts 1000+ lives claimed by the virus total."

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Niggers. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693281)

That's all.

Re:Niggers. (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693293)

There is more to it. Media hide a lot of shit. My family got quite repulsed when I told them the problem of contagion is due to in most parts of that area, the ritual ceremony being drinking the water you use to wash the corpse.

Re:Niggers. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693347)

Reference?

Re:Niggers. (3, Funny)

Rosco P. Coltrane (209368) | about 4 months ago | (#47693355)

Reference?

None. The librarian is dead...

Re:Niggers. (4, Insightful)

ruir (2709173) | about 4 months ago | (#47693785)

http://www.refworld.org/docid/... [refworld.org] Considering often they have lots of wives...however I can swear it is not only the wives that drink it.

Re:Niggers. (2, Insightful)

mousse-man (632412) | about 4 months ago | (#47693349)

Wasn't there enough information posted and published everywhere in the mass media in Liberia to inform even the dumbest people not to do that at all? I mean, after 1000 people die in a quite horrid way, a bunch of RFSP (Really F****** Stupid People) storms an Ebola Quarantine Center, lets the infected patients flee, steals the medical supplies and probably believes they just fulfilled the will of their ancestors.

Then, after these RFSP let the infected escape, possibly carrying the bodies oozing with Ebola infected fluids in their own arms home, put them on a bed, washing these infected fluids away, and then using the towels to wash and dry themselves, get infected in turn. And if they didn't get infected by just caring for their relative expiring from one of the most horrid diseases, they will get infected when they kiss the deceased or 'ritually' wash him, or when they cuddle up (or doing some more improper things) with the oozing cadaver full of filovirii looking for the next host to infect. And if that was not enough, they will 'celebrate' the death of their relative by eating some bush meat, containing yet another Ebola strain.

Lather, rinse, repeat, this time multiplied by 500, because the whole clan of course has to conglomerate around the putrid cadaver of a usually quite controllable disease. And of course, these relatives, in the two weeks that the virus takes to manifest itself, return home into their jungle villages in the four corners of Liberia and adjoining countries.

That's how you make an epidemic spread like wildfire.

Now, if the authorities in African countries are smart, the next time such crap happens, don't use rifles. Use flame throwers. Disinfects looters, kills the sick in a safe way and prevents more spread. As brutal as it may sound, this will probably save many more lives than just letting these people who just proved that the ancestors of homo sapiens which still live on trees are quite much smarter 'live their culture'.

And showing the burning looters screaming in agony (because they just got BBQed by desperate authorities trying to contain the outbreak) on national TV will make sure the next bunch of idiots reconsiders their idea of looting a health center trying to contain one of the deadliest viral diseases known to mankind.

Re:Niggers. (0, Flamebait)

kevingolding2001 (590321) | about 4 months ago | (#47693401)

Now, if the authorities in African countries are smart,

I suspect that the authorities are usually just as much RFSP as everyone else.
And calling for flame-throwers will invoke outrage from the PC RFSP in every other part of the world.
And you and I will now be called 'racist'.

Wasn't there enough information posted and published everywhere in the mass media in Liberia to inform even the dumbest people not to do that at all?

There is never enough information to inform willfully ignorant people.
And now I'll be called 'racist' again.

Re:Niggers. (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693563)

Racis! You be hatin on Ebola because its black!

Nah... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693585)

Hate on the Bubonic plague. I mean after all it's the black death of white people! :)

Re:Niggers. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693699)

Post-racial society my ass!

Re:Niggers. (4)

nospam007 (722110) | about 4 months ago | (#47693423)

"Wasn't there enough information posted and published everywhere in the mass media in Liberia to inform even the dumbest people not to do that at all? I mean, after 1000 people die in a quite horrid way, a bunch of RFSP (Really F****** Stupid People) storms an Ebola Quarantine Center, lets the infected patients flee, steals the medical supplies and probably believes they just fulfilled the will of their ancestors."

Think of it as evolution in action.

People who don't believe in Ebola are removed from the gene pool.

Stupidity (2, Insightful)

mean pun (717227) | about 4 months ago | (#47693559)

Do you really believe that a culture/tribe/village/group can develop such stupid rituals to deal with the dead and diseased and survive to this day? Do you really think that `primitive' people don't know anything about quarantaine or other measures against infectious diseases? Do you really think that a group of people that has just seen some of their own die in a horrible way will quietly slink off to meditate on their sins rather than seek (quite possibly rough) justice for this? But you're not one of the RFSP, right?

It is quite possible that this attack was stupid, but clearly we're not getting all of the story here.

Re:Stupidity (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693783)

Their culture has survived because undesirable mutations were occasionally culled from the gene pool. What we are witnessing is such a culling.

Re:Niggers. (2, Interesting)

TheDarkMaster (1292526) | about 4 months ago | (#47693621)

Yor idea is sound, but will be downmodded because people in the civilized world do not understand that civilized world solutions do not usually work in a country that culturally is still in the Stone Age.

Re:Niggers. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693685)

voice of reason is flamebait?

Re:Niggers. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693359)

I found this reference. [thehigherlearning.com] Which seams highly credible. But instead drinking the water used to wash a corpse instead they insist on kissing and touching a body which would also be very effective in spreading the disease.

Re:Niggers. (3)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693477)

Rumors, childrens gossip and Resident Evil plot lines do not constitute reliable information sources.

Re:Niggers. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693611)

Rumors, childrens gossip and Resident Evil plot lines do not constitute reliable information sources.

Great, Now where am I supposed to get all of my information on infectious diseases?

Re:Niggers. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693321)

Seriously. However, these ebola monkeys make the Ferguson shitskins look like geniuses in comparison. Pure, undistilled niggerdom.

Re:Niggers. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693575)

The problem is not that Ebola can be deadly for niggers, it can be deadly for people too. And niggers can infect people. That's the bad part.

Re:Niggers. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693691)

That's all.

Since this racial slur appears to be condoned - it gives a pretty good idea about the demographics of this forum.

Motive? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693283)

They're niggers. Real old school, straight up ignorant, superstitious, violent and self destructive. Fuck em all. Die you fuckers.

Re:Motive? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693327)

If only we had books and the Internet we could explore the recent history of LIberia to find out why they are so ignorant, superstitious and violent.

Or we could just blame it on race, because that's easy, and stupid people like easy explanations, no matter how wrong they are.

Re:Motive? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693351)

Find me the white or asian equivalent. For sheer monumental self-destructive stupidity, niggers are unbeatable.

Re:Motive? (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693405)

Last I checked, there is a not insignificant number of people in the US who refuse childhood immunizations, and the very white, very old Vatican opposed condoms at the height of the HIV epidemic. You may argue the severity, but these are the same strain of stupidity to which all humans are susceptible.

Re:Motive? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693519)

.. the very white, very old Vatican opposed condoms at the height of the HIV epidemic. ...

They also opposed gay sex and drug abuse. No gay sex means the vast majority of the AIDS infections never happen. No drug abuse takes care of most of the rest. You're right that people often act stupidly, but you misidentified the key stupidity. And really, nearly all of the men having unprotected sex with other men during the last few heights of the AIDs epidemic were doing it because they wanted to, not because of the Vatican. Funny you didn't comment on that stupidity. Oh, and guess what - it is still going on, and AIDS is still spreading.

Re:Motive? (5, Insightful)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | about 4 months ago | (#47693587)

No gay sex means the vast majority of the AIDS infections never happen.

It's good for Africa that they never liked gays there, otherwise they would have an AIDS epidemic on their hands by now. Oh, wait...

Re:Motive? (2)

cold fjord (826450) | about 4 months ago | (#47693619)

It isn't an isolated problem.

Afghan Men Struggle With Sexual Identity, Study Finds [foxnews.com]

An unclassified study from a military research unit in southern Afghanistan details how homosexual behavior is unusually common among men in the large ethnic group known as Pashtuns -- though they seem to be in complete denial about it.

The study, obtained by Fox News, found that Pashtun men commonly have sex with other men, admire other men physically, have sexual relationships with boys and shun women both socially and sexually -- yet they completely reject the label of "homosexual." ...

Apparently, according to the report, Pashtun men interpret the Islamic prohibition on homosexuality to mean they cannot "love" another man -- but that doesn't mean they can't use men for "sexual gratification."

Re:Motive? (1)

SpzToid (869795) | about 4 months ago | (#47693451)

Should Not Feed Trolls(!), but yet again I can not help myself. What about former playmate, former co-anchor Jenny McCarthy, last seen on the (Oprah Winfrey replacement) daytime television show primarily aimed towards women called The View? Considering her anti-vaccination rhetoric, she was lucky to even be given her prominent seat at the table to begin with. Yet there she was, (until she wasn't).

Re:Motive? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693613)

She's pretty stupid but those who attacking a quarantine center is far more risky and stupid than refusing vaccination.

Re:Motive? (2)

SpzToid (869795) | about 4 months ago | (#47693665)

The word you are looking for is ignorant I believe, and there's actually a cure for it.

Re:Motive? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693535)

Find me the white or asian equivalent. For sheer monumental self-destructive stupidity, niggers are unbeatable.

The Ganges river: Bathing water source, sewer, and final destination for (often partially) cremated remains. Your one on-stop-shopping source for all diseases spread by the fecal-oral route.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganges#Pollution

Black people do not have a monopoly on medically self-destructive traditions.

Re:Motive? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693393)

> If only we had books

What a twat. What is it with you lefties that makes you insist on lisping out trite, sarcastic, passive-agressive faggy little lines like that? Just say what you mean... no need to resort to faggotry.

Anyway, regarding ignorance, superstitions and violence, I'm not sure if you have noticed but...

PRACTICALLY THE WHOLE FUCKING CONTINENT IS THAT WAY.

I'm sure the abysmal state of the ENTIRE FUCKING CONTINENT is because of Liberia, though, right?

Re:Motive? (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693443)

> I'm not sure if you have noticed but...

What a twat. What is it with you cave men that makes you insist on lisping out trite, sarcastic, passive-agressive faggy little lines like that? Just say what you mean... no need to resort to faggotry.

Re:Motive? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693553)

I cant decide if you are talking about Africa or the USA. I mean, the whole of your fucked up country is a shithole of violence, ignorane and stupidity.

Like you.

Re: Motive? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693681)

Not the whole of the country -- only the part that looks like Africa.

Re:Motive? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693697)

Always a pleasure to meet a fellow bigot. Sup brah? :: fist bump ::

Re:Motive? (1, Interesting)

mtthwbrnd (1608651) | about 4 months ago | (#47693409)

"Or we could just blame it on race, because that's easy, and stupid people like easy explanations, no matter how wrong they are."

Okay. It appears that there is some evidence, apart from the overwhelming evidence of the crapness of black countries and black areas within white countries, and the really clever game of wit and brain that blacks invented called "knock out game", or the one where they set themselves on fire for fun, that blacks have higher testosterone and that high testosterone is not conducive to "civilisation" or to "being civilised".

Civilisation could only rise once testosterone levels fell, according to "Science",
http://science-beta.slashdot.o... [slashdot.org]

"Serum testosterone levels in healthy young black and white men.

This report gives the results of assays of circulating steroid hormone levels in white and black college students in Los Angeles, CA. Mean testosterone levels in blacks were 19% higher than in whites, and free testosterone levels were 21% higher. Both these differences were statistically significant. Adjustment by analysis of covariance for time of sampling, age, weight, alcohol use, cigarette smoking, and use of prescription drugs somewhat reduced the differences. After these adjustments were made, blacks had a 15% higher testosterone level and a 13% higher free testosterone level."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pu... [nih.gov]

Re:Motive? (1)

Pino Grigio (2232472) | about 4 months ago | (#47693515)

You wanted to blame it on race, didn't you Anonymous Coward. You were going to blame it on white males.

Re:Motive? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693629)

Or we could just blame it on race, because that's easy, and stupid people like easy explanations, no matter how wrong they are.

The "I'm smart, other people are less smart therefore there are always wrong therefore I should always think the contrary of what those non smart people think" reasonning. Even dumb people can be right from time to time.

Re:Motive? (1)

kevingolding2001 (590321) | about 4 months ago | (#47693671)

and stupid people like easy explanations, no matter how wrong they are

So tell me...

What is the 'right' explanation for looting the "Blood-stained mattresses, bedding and medical equipment" from a quarantine center set up specifically to deal with Ebola?

Re: Motive? (3, Interesting)

PIBM (588930) | about 4 months ago | (#47693773)

Develop a biological weapon, using one of the strongest strain of Ebola?

If that's not worth a Darwin Award⦠(1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693287)

â¦I don't know what is.

Forget the Purple Hearts (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693291)

Start mass-producing the Darwin Awards.

Darwinism as a team sport. (5, Insightful)

hooiberg (1789158) | about 4 months ago | (#47693309)

Maybe we can create group Award, now that Darwinism has become a team sport!

Re:Darwinism as a team sport. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693323)

groupie darwin in action already has a name, it's called socialism.

Re:Darwinism as a team sport. (1)

Thanshin (1188877) | about 4 months ago | (#47693373)

While keeping the yearly Darwin Award, Maybe it's time to create a World Darwin Championship, every four years. With an opening ceremony, different disciplines and medals, a Shakira song, vuvuzelas,...

As medal materials, instead of Gold, Silver and Bronze, I propose Polonium, Arsenic and compressed Gunpowder.

Re:Darwinism as a team sport. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693567)

Maybe we can create group Award, now that Darwinism has become a team sport!

Given the horrific nature of the ingredient chosen, I'd say this is more like Iron Chef. There's a hell of a clock ticking.

Re:Forget the Purple Hearts (2)

Bearhouse (1034238) | about 4 months ago | (#47693673)

Indeed. While you're at it, you can produce some for us (the "West").
I'm no leftie nutjob, but you've got to admin that the a lot of such problems are historically down to us...Africa, Middle East...)
We brought technology without knowledge - if we had spent as much time educating these people over the centuries as we had killing and exploiting them, well, maybe things would be better.
As it stands, this thing spreading out of control is just a short flight away...

Re:Forget the Purple Hearts (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693749)

I'm no leftie nutjob, but you've got to admin that the a lot of such problems are historically down to us...Africa, Middle East...)

Dude, the Middle East and Africa has been at war since written record.
We may not have helped, and we may have made their violent tendencies more destructive, but saying their problems are our fault is just excusing the millennia of greed, war and hate which has plagued that part of the world.

Re:Forget the Purple Hearts (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693753)

Wait, so now you're implying the West is smarter than Africa and the Middle East and that those places needed to be educated by us? Fuck you.

12% of the population is Muslim (3, Interesting)

Chrisq (894406) | about 4 months ago | (#47693295)

I just hope this isn't a deliberate attempt to spread the virus, remove medical supplies and become martyrs

Re:12% of the population is Muslim (1)

hooiberg (1789158) | about 4 months ago | (#47693315)

Well, they cannot become martyrs by just dropping dead. At least they have to kill some unbelievers as well... I think they really have no clue what they are doing.

Re:12% of the population is Muslim (0)

kevingolding2001 (590321) | about 4 months ago | (#47693411)

At least they have to kill some unbelievers as well...

Spreading the disease is a pretty effective way of doing just that.

Re:12% of the population is Muslim (2)

Nyder (754090) | about 4 months ago | (#47693331)

I just hope this isn't a deliberate attempt to spread the virus, remove medical supplies and become martyrs

I doubt it. Most likely just the typical bullshit you get in a 3rd world country. Low education, coupled by poverty, corrupt government and when you get a health epidemic, people panic and do stupid shit.

Family supposed got some of the sick, which is understandable that they want to spend the last days with the people, and same for those that supposedly left when the riot started.

As for the looting of the place and the start of the riot, who knows the real agenda there. Panic? Planned? Stupidity? Guess we might find out.

   

Re:12% of the population is Muslim (2)

cold fjord (826450) | about 4 months ago | (#47693599)

Most likely just the typical bullshit you get in a 3rd world country. Low education, coupled by poverty, corrupt government and when you get a health epidemic, people panic and do stupid shit

Terrorism is pretty common "bullshit" in some 3rd world countries. The culture of some groups that engage in terrorism celebrates self-sacrifice when engaging in terrorism. Indeed, there is essentially a death cult there when they state "we love death more than you love life." Terrible diseases like Ebola induce terror while killing many people. Modern air travel has reduced the what had been the travel of months to a few hours. Hmmm. Hmmm.

12% of the population is Muslim (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693427)

Don't attribute to malice, what can be adequately explained by stupidity. Probably illiterates, so they didn't get the meaning of the big posters and other warnings. The only ill will here is "lets plunder the new governmental facility; no security we can't overcome". Who would have tought an ebola facility needed a security guard?

So the looters got what they wanted. Lots of nice second hand bedsheets that only need some blood washed off. Nice for those who normally can't afford any sheets at all. Those who can read and afford stuff, probably stay as far away from the ebola facility as possible.

Quarantine the whole city (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693345)

As the quarantine centre has been looted, maybe they should try to contain the outbreak by extending the quarantine to the whole city. Declare martial law and not allow anyone to enter or leave the city.

Re:Quarantine the whole city (1)

mysidia (191772) | about 4 months ago | (#47693795)

As the quarantine centre has been looted, maybe they should try to contain the outbreak by extending the quarantine to the whole city. Declare martial law and not allow anyone to enter or leave the city.

Agreed. Armed military blockade around the city and lockdown of major thoroughfares to minimize travel, even quarantine neighborhoods with infected people, until the infected can be re-isolated and those responsible for the riots can be rounded up.

I would call it worst case of darwin award (2)

aepervius (535155) | about 4 months ago | (#47693363)

but that would be callous because , unfortunately potentially the looter might contaminate other innocent people and worsen the epidemic. And also they are making it worst by destroying the (already strapped) existing infrastructure to treat epidemic. Unfortunately with some people thinking the doctor spread Ebola, and the funerary practice and belief winning over simple science and hygiene, my expectation of the locals are low. Fortunately due to our own procedure ebola is unlikely to become an epidemic in our region.

Re:I would call it worst case of darwin award (1)

wisnoskij (1206448) | about 4 months ago | (#47693679)

Yes, but in all likelihood they will contaminate their relatives and families first.

Quarantine vs. being stubborn (4, Insightful)

kruach aum (1934852) | about 4 months ago | (#47693369)

It's probably easier to let these people die of ebola than it is to change the mind of someone who stubbornly believes in things that are false. There have been many information campaigns about the causes and prevention of transmission of ebola, up to and including rap songs, and yet they can't help themselves.

Re:Quarantine vs. being stubborn (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693387)

Totally easier. Good thing the doctors and medical staff who risk their lives to fight the disease are not that lazy.

Re:Quarantine vs. being stubborn (4, Insightful)

hooiberg (1789158) | about 4 months ago | (#47693395)

These are the same people that believe that having sex with a virgin cures aids, and as such rape babies... I wonder if it is a really bad thing if the entire country were to die of ebola.

Re:Quarantine vs. being stubborn (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693495)

Going a bit far, they're not all bad.

Re:Quarantine vs. being stubborn (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693655)

..let god sort them out.

captcha: nihilism.

Re:Quarantine vs. being stubborn (1)

Pino Grigio (2232472) | about 4 months ago | (#47693531)

I don't believe that story at all. But even if it's true, what we're dealing with here is an ignorant, uneducated population most of whom don't have access to information, don't watch the daily news, don't (can't) read newspapers, haven't ever heard of the germ theory of disease, and with a government the members of which are enriching themselves in the traditional African way through corruption, coercion and violence.

Thankfully the situation in Africa is slowly improving, though I think the current generation in this locality is probably doomed to plod on in ignorance regardless.

Re:Quarantine vs. being stubborn (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693605)

I don't believe that story at all.

Unfortunately, it is true, though maybe not as prevelent in West Africa than in other regions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misconceptions_about_HIV/AIDS [wikipedia.org]

Flanagan, Jane (2001-11-11). "South African men rape babies as 'cure' for Aids" [telegraph.co.uk] . Telegraph (London). Retrieved 2009-03-25.

Meel, B.L. (2003). "1. The myth of child rape as a cure for HIV/AIDS in Transkei: a case report" [nih.gov] . Med. Sci. Law 43 (1): 85–88.

Groce, N.E.; Trasi, R. (2004). "Rape of individuals with disability: AIDS and the folk belief of virgin cleansing" [nih.gov] . Lancet 363 (9422): 1663–1664.

Quarantine vs. being stubborn (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693429)

Letting the stubborn and stupid kill themselves is an option with ebola - protection is easy enough for those that understand. But lets hope they don't get an airborne pandemy there . . .

Oh yes... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693397)

... it's totally worth saving this population...

Re:Oh yes... (1, Troll)

mtthwbrnd (1608651) | about 4 months ago | (#47693449)

Hey they are exactly the same as us, okay. It is only their skin color that is different. They evolved in a different environment which gave them a different skin color, but it could not possibly impact their IQ or anything like that, because IQ is fixed and the same for all people - it is the one thing that did not evolve and would not be impacted at all by different environments. Okay? Got it? If you say otherwise then you are a racist and want to holocaust 6 gazillion poor innocent Jews who have already almost been holocausted, again!, by Hamas rockets.

The reason they behave so badly is because we oppressed them. White people are to blame for all of this. We are so evil. Thank god for the white genoc... I mean, for diversity.

Re:Oh yes... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693485)

lol. you forgot to post anonymously.

Re:Oh yes... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693551)

lol. you forgot to post anonymously.

That guy only posts on matters concerning race or pedophilia. He's a winner.

You have to understand (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693433)

I think it's necessary to understand what's going on Liberia. People there are uneducated, prone to superstition and there's a lot of ignorance about the Ebola outbreak over there, however people are acting rationally based on what they see. What they've seen is that when people go to one of these facilities, they tend to end up dead. If you're living there, ignorance of modern medicine and viruses and whatnot and you witness a loved one being taken to a hospital, it's understandable why people will not take it willingly.

A lot of people think this is some "white-man's poison" that's infecting and killing folks. There's enough bad history with westerners fucking around with Africa that you can't really blame them for being predisposed to being suspicious at what doctor's are doing. Of course, that doesn't mean the situation is great for all concerned - it just isn't that surprising giving the environment.

Re:You have to understand (4, Insightful)

kruach aum (1934852) | about 4 months ago | (#47693537)

You say they act rationally based on what they see, and then describe them engaging in post hoc ergo propter hoc logic (people going to facilities end up dead, therefore the facilities are killing them), and being prejudiced against white people and doctors. I am unsure if you are clear on what "rational" means. Hint: it's not acting based on what you 'feel' is right or true, because feelings are notoriously bad at ferreting out either.

Re:You have to understand (0)

korbulon (2792438) | about 4 months ago | (#47693557)

People there are uneducated, prone to superstition and there's a lot of ignorance...

On a related note, I guess it makes sense that the Walking Dead takes place in the Deep South.

Re:You have to understand (1)

halivar (535827) | about 4 months ago | (#47693777)

Doesn't quite fit, does it? In that show/comic, only southerners survive.

Re:You have to understand (1, Interesting)

Pino Grigio (2232472) | about 4 months ago | (#47693561)

Oh I see, it's the fault of us white males isn't it.

Re:You have to understand (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693565)

There's enough bad history with westerners fucking around with Africa that you can't really blame them for being predisposed to being suspicious at what doctor's are doing.

There never was evil white westerners fucking around Africa. Africa was always a shit hole on it own. In 50 years, this Ebola outbreak will be remember as evil white westerner fucking around Africa. Just like all the previous so call evil white westerner fucking around. And again, the past lies will be use to justify nigger behaviour.

Every single time we helped the 'noble savages' of Africa by bringing them civilisation, science, medicine or just money it was always turned against us. It is time we let the dirt apes die at their own hands. Quarantine the whole fucking continent.

Re:You have to understand (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693571)

I think it's necessary to understand what's going on Liberia. People there are uneducated, prone to superstition and there's a lot of ignorance

You misspelled "America."

Re:You have to understand (1)

cdrudge (68377) | about 4 months ago | (#47693765)

What they've seen is that when people go to one of these facilities, they tend to end up dead.

As oppose to those that are infected that don't go to the facilities who don't just tend to end up dead, but are essentially guaranteed to be die from the virus.

Where were the guards? (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693463)

Anyone trying to breach a quarantine center should be shot.

Truly sad (5, Insightful)

GeekWithAKnife (2717871) | about 4 months ago | (#47693473)


Unfortunately this is the sort of event that can make this virus' infections rates soar beyond control.

Because of a small group of idiots the majority will suffer needlessly.

I see some say "fuck 'em" and some have this attitude of not our problem - for lack of understanding that their problem can become our problem. If that's not a case for a reason to put more resources into education I don't know what is.

It's everyone's problem when some person in Liberia, is now scared for his life and flees without knowing he is carrying the virus. In 48 hours he might be sitting next to you on a bus! -what are you going to say when people start bleeding their internal organs out of all orifices?

You want to give out Darwin awards? start by considering you may get one yourself with such an attitude.

Re:Truly sad (2, Informative)

kruach aum (1934852) | about 4 months ago | (#47693543)

No, it's fear mongers like you who are the problem. Ebola is spread by coming into contact with bodily fluids of an infected person. I don't know how you interact with people on the bus, but rarely do I get bled on on my way to work. Furthermore, people in 1st world countries are also less inclined to break people out of quarantine, think doctors are evil killers, or think that black magic is involved. On top of that, most of the people in the affected countries lack the wealth to transport themselves here, and I'm sure that people from infected countries are treated with all possible precautions when they arrive at the airport of a 1st world country.

Re:Truly sad (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693645)

and I'm sure that people from infected countries are treated with all possible precautions when they arrive at the airport of a 1st world country.

Dream on.

Re:Truly sad (3, Insightful)

GeekWithAKnife (2717871) | about 4 months ago | (#47693659)


People cough, they sneeze, they perspire and touch things. If they carry a deadly virus then this is a deadly problem.

Did you ever use the toilet at work? - ever had issues of a bad stomach doing the rounds? any idea how many people don't wash their hands after taking a piss? -people you shook hands with. I'd not bet my life on this scenario being impossible.

The fact that this is LESS likely to happen in a "1st world country" does not help right now. I'm not trying to terrify you into wearing a face mask; I am telling you this can get out of hand if we do not do more to help get this under control.
Look at the hate some morons choose to spew at this very moment, racists, bigots and foolhardy posts. These so called "1st world" people might just ignore what they stupidly think is an African problem.

While it's a shame that many people simply do not care about the suffering of others; if you ignore this it may just end up killing people you do care about. Does that sink in or are they not the people you typically see when you go to work?

Re:Truly sad (1)

kruach aum (1934852) | about 4 months ago | (#47693719)

If I ignore this it won't end up killing people I care about. I'm not saying it can't happen, but I am saying I'm willing to bet against those odds, much like I'm willing to bet that we're not in the matrix, that the sun will rise tomorrow, that I have hands, that solipsism is false, and that there is no god.

Re:ALREADY HAPPENED! (New Mexico) (1)

storkus (179708) | about 4 months ago | (#47693617)

They don't think it's Ebola but they want to be sure:

http://www.kob.com/article/sto... [kob.com]

And this is just ONE person! Even if this one is not the one, statistics says a plane or boat full of carriers is coming sooner or later. May be time to stock up on Tyvek suits and bleach, for starters...

Re:Truly sad (4, Funny)

OzPeter (195038) | about 4 months ago | (#47693723)

It's everyone's problem when some person in Liberia, is now scared for his life and flees without knowing he is carrying the virus. In 48 hours he might be sitting next to you on a bus!

Ha! Ain't going to happen.

I live in a suburb in the US with ZERO public transportation options. Not only that I won't pass them on the street either as there are no frickin' sidewalks as well.

Re:Truly sad (1)

GeekWithAKnife (2717871) | about 4 months ago | (#47693757)



Honestly, just substitute "bus" for any other mode of transportation. Go out on a limb and consider the greater possibilities.

There will always be something/someone that this will not affect, great. Maybe you living in a nuclear bunker with a sophisticated air and water filtration system, good for you.

What about the people at risk?

meh (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693513)

it's just scare mongering for the upcoming Ebola vaccine

Apocalypse Now (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693591)

Sounds as though it is time to quote Lieutenant Colonel Bill Kilgore, "I love the smell of napalm in the morning. You know, one time we had a hill bombed, for 12 hours. When it was all over, I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' dink body. The smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole hill. Smelled like [sniffing, pondering] victory. Someday this war is going to end."

Meh (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693625)

Call it eBola and we'll have another bubble

Re:Meh (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693771)

Call it eBola and we'll have another bubble

ahhhhhhhahahaha, the depth of that comment

Call OFFICER DARREN WILSON (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693641)

He da man who can take care of this problem.

Stupidity (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47693693)

For our sins we may be punished in the next life. For our stupidity we shall certainly suffer in this one (Schopenhauer).

These people will be able to test both parts quite soon.

Zombie literature seem so prescient.. (2)

swb (14022) | about 4 months ago | (#47693703)

I'd say at least half of them have some kind of scene where panicked/ignorant locals ignore the medical experts and raid the quarantine centers. And usually it's one of those turning point moments in the narrative with disastrous consequences.

 

Please stop and think (5, Insightful)

TeethWhitener (1625259) | about 4 months ago | (#47693705)

You live in a country with a wildly corrupt government that repeatedly lies to you and regularly unburdens you of your basic human rights. Then one day, officials from this government force you and everyone you know at gunpoint to submit to a series of "tests." You notice that, all of a sudden, many of the most social and/or eldest (therefore vocal, therefore most likely to be community leaders/government dissenters) among you go missing and later mysteriously die. For good measure, a number of kids randomly disappear and die as well. The ones that survive tell horrible stories about the dismal conditions in which they were held, where they were injected with any number of things and only a few days later, became sick . The government (the same government that lies to you and considers you subhuman) tells you that the cultural practices that have been with your group for a thousand years are all of a sudden, just now, for reasons they don't have time to explain, causing you to get sick and die, and it just happens to selectively be wiping out the kids and the community leaders.

If it were the US doing this, I conjecture that at the very least, this comment thread would have a radically different tone. Less "these guys are idiots," and more "these guys are heroes." What we're witnessing in Liberia is a tragic consequence of a corrupt power structure attempting, maybe for the first time, to legitimately help people that it has previously subjugated. The whole thing smacks of people acting in their and their community's best interests based on many many previous data points telling them government=bad, therefore avoid government. Unfortunately, it takes time to build a relationship of trust between a government and its citizens, and in the face of the calamity that Liberia is confronting, neither the government nor its citizens have any time to spare.

Re:Please stop and think (2)

Dr. Spork (142693) | about 4 months ago | (#47693755)

Thank you for an insightful post. No discussion of this will make sense without the point you made. IMO, it only makes the whole situation seem that much more tragic.
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