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Biohackers Are Engineering Yeast To Make THC

timothy posted about 4 months ago | from the really-great-bread-man dept.

Biotech 159

meghan elizabeth writes How do you get weed without the weed? By genetically engineering yeast to produce THC, of course. Once theorized in a stoner magazine column more than a decade ago, a biotech startup working in Ireland is actively trying to transplant the genetic information that codes for both THC and another cannabinoid called CBD into yeast so that "marijuana" can be grown in a lab—no plants necessary.

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Holy grey area! (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47437987)

So let's say I start a company that uses GMO THC yeast to make bread dough. The dough does not contain any THC; just the yeast that can create it. I sell this bread dough in your supermarket's freezer section as unrisen, unbaked loaves.

You purchase the bread dough, take it home, thaw it out, let it rise overnight. (Or, for an hour or two in a warm oven.) It happily produced CO2 and THC, the bread rises, you then bake it. You then can make some 'fun' sandwiches. Is my business legal?

Re:Holy grey area! (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47438033)

If it's legal it won't be for long. Two points:

1) Most likely the yeast bodies will have trace amounts of THC.
2) Look at what happened with Psilocybin, the spores of the mushrooms contain no Psilocybin however the mushrooms do. You used to be able to order the spores legally because there were no psychoactive chemicals however they are now also on the DEA schedule.

So .. no.

Re:Holy grey area! (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47438123)

Maybe so, but it's perhaps another step in the direction of making the prohibition unenforceable. Such technological advances coupled with a changing public perception and political changes (California, Colorado, Portugal, the Netherlands and increasing de facto legality in more and more places) are increasing momentum against the "war on drugs". I hope to live to see the day when the current prohibition will be held in the same regard as the previous one. For now I take comfort in the realisation that puritanism is losing ground.

Re:Holy grey area! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47438143)

So .. no.

It was on the radio today in Ireland. It's being done for medical marijuana for patients of MS (multiple sclerosis) in particular.
So .. yes.

Re:Holy grey area! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47438605)

You can still buy spores legally. There's a local head shop that sells a kit for about $150, and if you play your cards right you can keep that cycling indefinitely. And yes, they work.

Re:Holy grey area! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47438863)

The yeast is just a cover. Once they get it all sorted out, they switch to selling kits for changing human cells to produce THC directly. This also avoids the whole smoking step, which is probably more unhealthy than the THC itself.
(Probably easier to just modify gut bacteria instead of human cells. I can already see interesting airport procedures...)

Re:Holy grey area! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47439703)

This brings a whole new way to make hash brownies, breads, etc?

Re:Holy grey area! (5, Informative)

Alien7 (310889) | about 4 months ago | (#47438037)

Provided you make a warning against doing just that it's okay. During alcohol prohibition breweries used to sell malt extract with a warning that went something like "don't add water and yeast and leave in a dark room for 3 weeks, it will make alcohol and that's illegal!"

Re:Holy grey area! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47438469)

Yeah, but that was a more innocent time. We already have to talk to a pharmacist, show ID, and get in a government DB to buy decongestant. That's because you can use it to make meth.

The end result of all this would just be tight monitors on people buying yeast, talking to a pharmacist to buy it, tracking lists of yeast buyers. Yeah, you can easily reproduce the yeast and maintain a culture. You could buy black market cultures. That's logic. Try talking logic to the drugwar mentality that just inconveniences innocent people.

Re: Holy grey area! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47438855)

While yes you can use sudafed to make meth, there are cheaper ways to synthesize the same result.. As you can see from today's formula for making cheap meth. No, the real reason is to appease China. Yu see psuedophedrine patents have expired, so inseadof flooding the market with $2 generics, phenolphedrine was created. Is is obviously sub par, but can be made in large quantities by Chinese labs... So can phenolphedrine. The FDA stepped in and, in convert with the DEA, put strict regulations on marketing psuedophedrine.
 
the original maker is no longer making profit on sudafed and you can see this with all the zyrtic-d, mucinex-d, etc products. But to stop the Chinese duplicates selling to Walmart and CVS, roadblocks were put in place under the guise of the war on drugs. Why ? I don't know..

Re: Holy grey area! (1)

sjames (1099) | about 4 months ago | (#47439269)

Given the way the DEA is going, the question might be can you make Sudafed from meth?

Re:Holy grey area! (1)

russotto (537200) | about 4 months ago | (#47439401)

Yeah, but that was a more innocent time. We already have to talk to a pharmacist, show ID, and get in a government DB to buy decongestant. That's because you can use it to make meth.

Interestingly, the decongestant is made by yeast. Now all we need is for someone to come up with a yeast which makes the meth directly; no more need for the current sort of meth labs.

Re:Holy grey area! (5, Funny)

newcastlejon (1483695) | about 4 months ago | (#47438455)

So, in other words, what you're saying is that bread bakes you?

Re:Holy grey area! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47438601)

Yes, but only in soviet Russia

Re:Holy grey area! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47439517)

*slowclap*

Re:Holy grey area! (2)

nurb432 (527695) | about 4 months ago | (#47438463)

It may not be as grey as you think.

Example: Buying spores for psilocybin mushrooms could well be illegal, as it shows 'conspiracy to commit', which is illegal in its own right... The spores contain noting, but there is no other use for them but to create illegal substances so its really hard to make up an excuse.. This is no difference than your business proposal.

I also think in some US states ( and countries ) possession of the spores was declared illegal outright....

Re:Holy grey area! (1)

Justpin (2974855) | about 4 months ago | (#47438467)

Considering you can by raw poppy seeds which will grow into opium gum poppies and various other seeds which are sold as bird feed. I don't ultimately see much of a problem with it. OTOH people buying hydrogen peroxide and aluminium powder for completely legitimate reasons have been subject to middle of the night armed police raids to their homes which caused one of them to emigrate to Canada.

Re:Holy grey area! (1)

disposable60 (735022) | about 4 months ago | (#47438567)

Considering you can by raw poppy seeds which will grow into opium gum poppies and various other seeds which are sold as bird feed.

Provided you don't know that _all_ poppies are opium poppies, then it's legal to buy the seeds and grow the flowers.
Of course now that you know ...

Re:Holy grey area! (2)

QRDeNameland (873957) | about 4 months ago | (#47439209)

Provided you don't know that _all_ poppies are opium poppies, then it's legal to buy the seeds and grow the flowers. Of course now that you know ...

GP might not "know" that because it's false.

Only Papaver somniferum are opium poppies. The common red 'Flanders' poppy aka the Veteran's Day/Remembrance Day poppy (Papaver rhoeas) is not an opium poppy, nor are a number of others like the California poppy that are not even of the genus Papaver.

Poppy [wikipedia.org]

No wouldnt be fun at all (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47438979)

With only THC and none of the other cannabinoids all you are just going to get is very anxious and very paranoid and I doubt anybody wants that. We discover something new about the endocannabinoid system almost every day. If you expose yourselves to chronic high levels of THC alone you are going to find some of those receptors downregulated retarding the action of GABA. Cannabidiol (CBD) is essential, it is a weak cannabinoid receptor antagonist/agonist the role depends on dose concentration and is highly anxiolytic. Trust me you want it.

So, stoner beer? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47437995)

Guess we know why this is coming out of Ireland.

Re:So, stoner beer? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47438139)

Even the startups are planning to use the double-irish dutch sandwich?

This crowd seems to be Canadian so I'd also guess they found grants in Ireland, wanted to be even further away from the DEA then their home, wanted somewhere English speaking and regarded everywhere else as worse options.

this + vaping (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47438005)

so this will make it easy to mass produce, and make it cheaper to use in electronic ciagarettes?

Can you get arrested for having THC oil or does it have to be a part of the plant?

Law. (2)

leuk_he (194174) | about 4 months ago | (#47438027)

The law is not equipped to forsee such advances in drugs. However if this is commercially possible, and this becomes popular, THC enabled yeast will be added to lists of forbidden substances. (just like "bath salts")

Re:this + vaping (2)

Titus Groan (2834723) | about 4 months ago | (#47438137)

here in the UK oil used to be a class-A drug like heroin whilst the resin or plant matter was a class-B. The main reason for this, I believe, was the method of extracting oil with isopropanol can be a bit of a fire/explosion risk. When they reclassified weed/resin as class-C they also lowered oil's classification. Then they moved plant/resin backup to class-B which is where oil remains now; because governments are fickle like that.

Re:this + vaping (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47438435)

isopropanol based THC/CBD extracts are pure crap, even with anhydrous isopropanol, napthalene is acceptable but for purity nothing beats butane except ether. But ether is many many many times more dangerous than butane but the final product is 99.9 % pure instead of 99.5% (.1% and .5% of the extract is not from the plant material, according to a biologist I use to fuck). Lab grade butane would be as good as ether but butane is already the priciest ingredient in THC extraction from dried leaves and 99.5 is pure enough.

"Biohackers" (4, Insightful)

dugancent (2616577) | about 4 months ago | (#47438023)

In my lab, we call them scientists (or chemist, biologist, etc).

Re:"Biohackers" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47438043)

Remember that 'hacker' is a dirty and evil word. These cretins can't POSSIBLY be scientists! Scientists wouldn't make things that our youth could get high on INTENTIONALLY. No, they must be something bad... sci... bio... biohacker! That's it. Biohacker.

Re:"Biohackers" (1)

Titus Groan (2834723) | about 4 months ago | (#47438163)

C&P from RFC1392

hacker
A person who delights in having an intimate understanding of the internal workings of a system, computers and computer networks in particular. The term is often misused in a pejorative context, where "cracker" would be the correct term. See also: cracker.

Re:"Biohackers" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47438749)

So the RFC is wrong. What else is new.

Re:"Biohackers" (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47438055)

In my lab we call them prostitutes, because after engineering drugs, they need a bj to unwind :)

Re:"Biohackers" (1)

nurb432 (527695) | about 4 months ago | (#47438493)

But that doesn't catch anyone's attention. Its all about marketing and ad revenue, ya know.

Really, even the content isn't relevant thesed ays as its all about how many hits you can get to your page

420 Loko? (2)

jimduchek (13246) | about 4 months ago | (#47438035)

Just sayin...

Can any one say best beer ever (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47438047)

nuf said

THC infections (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47438061)

Hear that women? Yes, you can grow THC in your.... whowhodilly. Now get started on that THC infection... we can negotiate about it later.

Cookie dough (3, Interesting)

roman_mir (125474) | about 4 months ago | (#47438079)

Yeast with THC sounds like a perfect combination, get high while eating something baked and it could be any bread, a dope bagel, a funny muffin, a nostalgic croissant, the branding possibilities are endless!

Re:Cookie dough (1)

HornWumpus (783565) | about 4 months ago | (#47438115)

If you eat THC it will mostly just pass threw your system.

You generally want to put it into an oil solution first, so it can cross your gut boundary.

Re:Cookie dough (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47438205)

THC is also nicely alcohol soluble. The perfect yeast for making beer.

Re:Cookie dough (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47438453)

Fantastic idea.

Re:Cookie dough (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47438693)

you are almost right. THC solubility in ethanol drop exponentially relative to the concentration of h2o. It is soluble in anhydrous ethanol, insoluble in beer ! However you can suspend THC in water pretty much like the oil in dressing. It is caused by the vegetable fats from all the materials going in your batch and the natural stirring propelled by the rising co2 bubbles.

The resulting beer*1 will taste like a really skunky version of a fresh hops 90 minutes IPA, the IBU*2 will probably be above 120. The high will be somewhere between beer happiness and bolted to the floor grinning. The factors affecting the high are, in order, hop+weed fat content, THC concentration in mg/L, the beverage temperature*3 and finally the small intestine content*4...

1-assuming that you know how to brew.... If you don't it will taste real bad like the majority of homemade beers but way worse
2-International bitterness unit.
3-below 5C THC and hops oil tend to precipitate and pass straight through the digestive system
4-on a a digestive system full of:
    a-full of water rich vegetables or fruits -> almost no effect,
    b-full of rich food -> a few hours of delay, less potent
    c-completely empty -> somewhere between 1/2hr and 1 hr with a high between way too much and just right
    d-after a small portion of a rich meal -> around 1hr, floored with a high anywhere between smiling stupidly, vomiting with a ridiculous smile and a paranoiac delirium

 

Re:Cookie dough (1)

maliqua (1316471) | about 4 months ago | (#47438237)

you don't put yeast in cookies

Re:Cookie dough (1)

HiThere (15173) | about 4 months ago | (#47438761)

Not in most cookies, but there ARE cookies that use a yeast dough. The problem is the yeast eats most of the sugar, so they aren't very sweet. (Maybe you could call them biscuits?)

Whoa (3, Informative)

SpankiMonki (3493987) | about 4 months ago | (#47438099)

Dude, we are totally gonna get baked.

Re:Whoa (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47438319)

The first thing I thought of was how in some areas, people will get yeast for their bread by opening the window and waiting for it to come in and grow. Just imagine if we get to the point of having native airborne strains of THC yeast.

Need fast-acting yeast (2)

retroworks (652802) | about 4 months ago | (#47438119)

They better act fast if they want to skirt the law with yeast, while there's still a law to break. In USA, Pot will be legal nationwide by 2018

At least that's been my bet. According to the LA Times today, the DEA in Washington is showing "fatigue" at enforcing it and the White House is ready to give up on the "war on pot". http://www.latimes.com/nation/... [latimes.com]

Re:Need fast-acting yeast (4, Insightful)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | about 4 months ago | (#47438251)

They better act fast if they want to skirt the law with yeast, while there's still a law to break.

It's still a good idea if you want pure chemicals - yeast can produce chemicals faster (to both grow and purify) than plants. Companies like the one Gov. Johnson [benswann.com] is heading up would probably be very interested as a supply source for their refined products.

The trick is medicinal cannabis has something like 250 active compounds. A few years ago everybody assumed that it was only THC that did anything (marinol, for instance). Now they know that CBD is the most active medicinally and Johnson is now talking about CBG as well. There's still more unknown about the others than there is known, so focusing on just a couple pure chemicals might miss out on benefits. Human bodies do a lot of signalling with various cannabinoids and here's this one plant that happens to also grow most of them. It should be a biotech bonanza, except for the crapitalistic reasons politicians try to keep it off the market.

But, um, yeah, get high on THC beer if you want. It would actually probably be a net-benefit for society since people will be satisfied with being less drunk. As a user of the road monopoly, I'd strongly support THC beer on the market.

pure cheap chemicals are a good thing (1)

davidwr (791652) | about 4 months ago | (#47438889)

Sure, medicinal cannibas may have 250 active compounds, but how many of those - individually or in combination - are necessary to treat 95% of patients?

If we can identify the ones needed to treat the vast majority of patients and synthesize them or find a bio-factory (e.g. yeast) that we can control much better than the traditional source (the plant), we can deliver drugs that are more pure and more consistent than your average joint or brownie, yet still do the job for almost all patients.

If I get cancer and need this for medical reasons, I would much prefer to take a drug that has a known, consistent potency and known, consistent nominally-inactive ingredients than something I cut off a plant.

Re:Need fast-acting yeast (2)

Trepidity (597) | about 4 months ago | (#47438379)

I doubt it will be fully legal by 2018. At the state level, I think it's likely more states will decriminalize or even fully legalize, but not all of them. I'll put a guess at: by 2018, it will be fully legal in 15 states, decriminalized in 15, and still criminal to possess in 20 states.

At the federal level, the Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs [wikipedia.org] would complicate legalization efforts, since the Treaty requires signatories to ban marijuana. And the U.S. doesn't want to undermine this treaty, because it uses the treaty to strongarm other countries over things like coca and poppy growing. It's possible the DEA will lower enforcement priority, though, and maybe possible (though imo this is less likely) that Congress will revise the law to reduce sentences from their current levels.

Re:Need fast-acting yeast (2)

GNious (953874) | about 4 months ago | (#47438519)

They better act fast if they want to skirt the law with yeast, while there's still a law to break. In USA, Pot will be legal nationwide by 2018

At least that's been my bet. According to the LA Times today, the DEA in Washington is showing "fatigue" at enforcing it and the White House is ready to give up on the "war on pot". http://www.latimes.com/nation/... [latimes.com]

It took 148 years for the states to agree slavery was bad, you think they'll agree on pot being good in less than a decade?

taste (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47438131)

Brick weed will get you high and you can easily concentrate it to 80+% THC. However, people pay money for smell, taste, and even appearance. That's why stores still sell tons of flowers even though it costs twice as much per unit of THC compared to concentrates made from the stuff they cut off the flowers.

Re:taste (1)

PrimeWaveZ (513534) | about 4 months ago | (#47438419)

So that's why my Johnnie Walker costs more than Everclear...

Everclear (disambiguation) (1)

tepples (727027) | about 4 months ago | (#47439007)

A company like Luxco, maker of Everclear, can benefit from economies of scale by scaling up production volumes of its products. But in order to do that, the company has to try to be everything to everyone.

Say no to GMO weed (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47438149)

stick to natural goodness

just think if this yeast got into the open (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47438155)

just think if this yeast got into the open and contaminated bakers, breweries, cheese-makers, and so on.

Re:just think if this yeast got into the open (1)

HornWumpus (783565) | about 4 months ago | (#47438169)

Just wait until the grommits (dead heads that never wash, aka louse sprinkler when they spin dreadlocks) get yeast infections with this stuff.

Re:just think if this yeast got into the open (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47438253)

1. people that never wash don't get that many yeast infections - I'll leave it as exercise to the reader to find out why.

2. yeast that colonizes your skin is very specific strain of yeast, not just random yeast

Re:just think if this yeast got into the open (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47438715)

Me me me me , I know why, the yeast are unable to displace the unwashed healthy microbiome.

Re: just think if this yeast got into the open (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47438351)

That would be my plan. Once it's everywhere, they can't stop it. What are they gonna do, ban bread?

Great... (1)

Hamsterdan (815291) | about 4 months ago | (#47438247)

How long until they make yeast illegal?

I'm really looking forward to a prison sentence for trying to make my own bread

Re:Great... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47438339)

What will the middle classes do if they can't make their own bread!?

(This joke probably makes more sense in the UK)

Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47438287)

They are genetically engineering stuff to produce stuff that is already available? Benefit would be....?

Printed THC (1)

MillionthMonkey (240664) | about 4 months ago | (#47438371)

They are genetically engineering stuff to produce stuff that is already available? Benefit would be....?

I'm not going to bother with genetic engineering. I'm going to get a 3D printer, download THC.sdl and CBD.sdl, and print my own cannabinoids.

Which reminds me I also have to print a new bong because this one is starting to smell like yeast.

Re:Printed THC (1)

kylemonger (686302) | about 4 months ago | (#47438545)

Yeast is better. Imagine THC-producing yeast spores in the wild. Imagine people and animals tripping out with fungal infections. Imagine the end of the world.

Re:Printed THC (1)

MillionthMonkey (240664) | about 4 months ago | (#47438751)

They should insert the THC gene into mold spores. It would motivate you to empty the sink so you can scrape the scum off the ceramic with a razor blade and roll it into a joint.

I've been calling for this for 20+ years... (4, Funny)

jeffb (2.718) (1189693) | about 4 months ago | (#47438293)

Actually, I've been calling for someone to graft the THC-production complex into kudzu. That way, either we get government help to wipe it out, or the government finally gives up; either way, kudzu becomes useful for something.

Of course, I don't have much deep knowledge about GM or plant biology, so coming up with this idea was about on a par with saying "somebody ought to build a flying car". Here's hoping that the task these folks are tackling turns out more tractable than that one.

Re:I've been calling for this for 20+ years... (1)

Andrew Wagner (3539183) | about 4 months ago | (#47438357)

I thought you guys had rent-a-goat companies for the kudzu... are they not keeping up?

Re:I've been calling for this for 20+ years... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47438785)

kudzu should be harvested for it's starch, processed into bio-ethanol and corn should exclusively used as a food (cattle or human) source. However the politically powerful National Corn Growers Association will not allow that to happen... You should blame, the roundup using, corn growers associations for to the government ineffectiveness in this matter.

Goat Opens Anus To Scare Everyone (1)

tepples (727027) | about 4 months ago | (#47439015)

Perhaps the goats have been too busy bending over and pulling their behinds apart.

Re:I've been calling for this for 20+ years... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47438581)

weed is already a weed. it's actually pretty hard to remove once it invades an area.

Re:I've been calling for this for 20+ years... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47438599)

Not if you don't have stoners following behind dropping seeds. The Feds have had 80+ years of weed removal...it'd take a bit of doing to get it to take off again.

Re:I've been calling for this for 20+ years... (1)

MillionthMonkey (240664) | about 4 months ago | (#47439433)

If we ever learn to design new genes and proteins quickly, there are a bunch of starter projects:

Give mold the ability to synthesize CBD and THC. It would motivate you to wash your dishes- so you can use a razor blade to scrape off a gooey film of cannabinoids from the slimy ceramic in your sink, puff away, develop the munchies again, refill the sink with dirty dishes, and complete the cycle.

Insert a couple genes into E Coli that can synthesize cannabinoids in your intestines, so you can get a buzz after eating regular brownies.

Give cows a few genes for synthesis of cannabinoids during lactation. THC milk would also go great with regular brownies.

Design a virus that invades the human nervous system and inserts genes into white matter cells to induce synthesis of Adderall.

Engineer mosquitos that have the ability to synthesize heroin.

Make puncturevines that synthesize injectable human vaccines for measles, mumps, pertussis, polio, flu, rubella. and accumulate them in those tack-shaped goathead seeds. Plant them near people who think vaccines cause autism. Also include genes for synthesizing tire sealant, so their needles stop blowing out my bike tires when they reach the curb.

Give chili peppers the ability to synthesize and retain methamphetamine. Pulverize them and you can get meth with that "Chili P signature" like Jesse was selling in the first episode of Breaking Bad.

Create bees that can successfully avoid any areas tainted with anything manufactured by Bayer.

Resurrect DNA from extinct giant bird Palagornis sandersi but modify the legs a little so that the birds can hold bombs and chemical weapons.

Design trees that grow both apples and oranges, so we can finally compare them.

Re:I've been calling for this for 20+ years... (1)

mpe (36238) | about 4 months ago | (#47439627)

Actually, I've been calling for someone to graft the THC-production complex into kudzu. That way, either we get government help to wipe it out, or the government finally gives up; either way, kudzu becomes useful for something.

Anyway you could call it "superweed".

Dude! Sounds like a real way to make some bread! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47438321)

On the making of medicines, bread, wine, yoghurt, cheese,,,,,,,

Seriously though, imagine if such a strain takes over the world's yeast supplies as deeply as Monsanto's patented DNA has the world's corn supplies.

No doubt, many would be looking forward to it.

Re:Dude! Sounds like a real way to make some bread (1)

Megol (3135005) | about 4 months ago | (#47438739)

On the making of medicines, bread, wine, yoghurt, cheese,,,,,,,

Seriously though, imagine if such a strain takes over the world's yeast supplies as deeply as Monsanto's patented DNA has the world's corn supplies.

So... near zero?

No doubt, many would be looking forward to it.

Re:Dude! Sounds like a real way to make some bread (1)

HiThere (15173) | about 4 months ago | (#47438821)

Sorry, but there are lots of very specialized yeast strains. You don't use the same yeast for wine as you do for beer, and that's different from the one you use for bread. Etc. San Francisco sourdough bread used to be made from a regionally available wild yeast, but I think things may have changed so that it no longer lives here. Certainly given the urban levels of pollution I wouldn't want to depend on catching a wild yeast. There was one bakery that used to have a baker who kept his culture growing on his hairy chest, but the food & drug people forbade this., even though it had been safe and popular for decades.

You aren't going to get one strain of yeast to take over the world. Particularly not one that's become dependent on being cultured in a lab.

Re:Dude! Sounds like a real way to make some bread (1)

Khyber (864651) | about 4 months ago | (#47439197)

" You don't use the same yeast for wine as you do for beer, and that's different from the one you use for bread."

I do, and I get great results every time.

"Turbo" yeasts and specialty brewer's yeasts tend to suck. Fleischmann's active dry yeast? Works like a charm. I can even make 20% port non-fortified with that stuff.

ooold (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47438363)

Tricky meth cooks have been using yeast for years to convert huge tanks of watered down benzaldehyde into L-PAC which is a very straight and industrious method to produce methylamphetamine without using common precursors. the more generations into it the more selective the yeast remain to better convert the aldehyde. or specialized strains are available.

also the use of UVB to selectively mutate a semi-common fungus which grows along side highways to produce LSD precursors via batch fermentation when the fungus normally will not.

harvesting olivetol producing lichen to convert into THC

people been at this for ages.

What is the point? (1)

assertation (1255714) | about 4 months ago | (#47438407)

I'm not a user, but my understanding is that pot is a very hearty plant, easy to grow and cheap to grow. Why invest money, time, and effort in learning to get the THC without it?

Re:What is the point? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47438459)

If they can increase the CBD and decrease the THC they will be able to make medicine for a number of brain-swelling medical problems. Oh and yes there are drugs that do similar work but often not as well as natural CBD and often the other medicines have some very serioud side effects.

Pediatric epilepsy is treateable with CBD even after other drugs have failed. Look up Charlotte's Web AKA the Hippies Bane - very very very low THC yeild but good CBD yeild.

Re:What is the point? (1)

ultranova (717540) | about 4 months ago | (#47438473)

I'm not a user, but my understanding is that pot is a very hearty plant, easy to grow and cheap to grow. Why invest money, time, and effort in learning to get the THC without it?

Because yeast is still easier, and it would be to everyone's advantage if at least some of the alcohol producers switched to pot. Except the "thank God for dead soldiers" crowd, of course, since they're never happy as long as someone else might be.

Re:What is the point? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47439351)

fags doom nations, just look at rome

Buy some? (1)

germansausage (682057) | about 4 months ago | (#47438413)

Or, you could just go to the store and buy some.
 
Guy from Seattle

Woah, wait a minute ... (1)

sdack (601542) | about 4 months ago | (#47438425)

Imagine you could use yeast to make alcohol!

Re:Woah, wait a minute ... (1)

Khyber (864651) | about 4 months ago | (#47439185)

Even better. Yeast producing both THC and alcohol. Instant cannabeer without the other brewing steps!

THCquila? :)

Ban bread and wine 'kits' (1, Funny)

nurb432 (527695) | about 4 months ago | (#47438445)

Great, i like making bread.. Will i now have to get a license to buy yeast ?

When you outlaw yeast.. only outlaws will eat sandwiches..

There is also a female joke in there too, but ill leave that one alone.

Re:Ban bread and wine 'kits' (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47438951)

A license to buy something that naturally occurs outdoors? Something that's pretty darn hard to get rid of actually (harder than getting rid of plants)? Now, a wild strain might not give you super-performance, but it's certainly going to remain available to culturing/selection for the foreseeable future. I bake bread, brew wine, and culture my own yeast, and I really hate buying yeast from the store--so I just grab it from the cultures in the fridge. Every once in a while, I have a day where I make up new ones. Easy as pie.

BAN YEAST! (2)

bussdriver (620565) | about 4 months ago | (#47439361)

Industrial hemp is banned because of the drug ban despite the fact it is not the smoking kind of hemp. Under that logic, they have ban all yeast because 1 species can make you high.

Grass in "Grass" (2)

BoRegardless (721219) | about 4 months ago | (#47438483)

For over 20 years it has been discussed that it might be possible to get the genes into your lawn's Bermuda grass.

Then your gardener could really rake in the grass for real dough.

Re:Grass in "Grass" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47438869)

If you employ someone, you call a gardener, for cutting your lawn; a combination of those predicates are true:
a- you are confusing a gardener with a lawn maintenance professional.
b- you have an unhappy overqualified gardener that could be put to better use by designing and caring for a real garden (ornamental or not)
c- you have a small patch of lawn near or inside a beautiful garden.

Meh. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47438499)

Let me know when they have yeast that produces MDMA.

THC yeast + Vaping (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47438641)

Vaping is already a drug delivery device for nicotine and THC, this just takes the whole nasty 'growing' part of the process out of the equation.

I suppose this is just evolution in action. We have the useless ones self-identify through things like vaping..

Toasted (1)

linearz69 (3473163) | about 4 months ago | (#47438691)

Dude, don't bogart the bread.

This isn't anything new. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47438851)

One of the biochemists I work with made THC producing bacteria as part of his masters project, it was apparently the easiest way of getting high purity THC to use as a solvent for the next stage of the project.

Of course some of it went 'missing' but there were problems growing something like this in non lab conditions. Once any other bacteria get on the plate they quickly out compete the one's that are spending all their energy making pointless extra chemicals. While that was bacteria not yeast I expect it's fairly similar.

Re:This isn't anything new. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47438969)

Citation please. The rest of the world might find interest in duplicating your friend's research. ;)

Re:This isn't anything new. (1)

Khyber (864651) | about 4 months ago | (#47439179)

The rest of the world has been at this for over two decades. Where have you been?

Not news for nerds (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47439067)

There's plenty of biased pro-drug websites on the internet, such as NORML, that can carry this kind of story.

Slashdot doesn't need to stoop down and run articles that only the true bottom feeders of society would have interest in. Potheads aren't people, and they aren't Slashdot readers either. Except for the old hippes with low UIDs that baked their brain decades ago, or the new kids who embrace whatever fad their peers pressure them into supporting.

Re:Not news for nerds (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47439415)

And there's plenty of biased anti-drug websites, too. The difference is, the anti-drug websites are generally anti-freedom and want to control what you consume.

Re:Not news for nerds (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47439719)

Shut the fuck up, donny.

GMO plants are a bad thing ! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47439235)

Maybe, maybe not.....

Wilder beer (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47439267)

If this gets made, and becomes viable in the wild, lambic brewers will be in for quite a ride.

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