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The Death Cap Mushroom Is Spreading Across the US

Soulskill posted about 9 months ago | from the i-blame-the-schools dept.

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Hugh Pickens DOT Com writes "Discovery News reports that the death cap mushroom is now an invasive species on every continent except Antarctica. It is spreading along the East and West Coasts of the U.S. and appears to be moving south into Mexico. 'When someone eats Amanita phalloides, she typically won't experience symptoms for at least six and sometimes as many as 24 hours,' says Cat Adams. 'Eventually she'll suffer from abdominal cramps, vomiting, and severely dehydrating diarrhea. This delay means her symptoms might not be associated with mushrooms, and she may be diagnosed with a more benign illness like stomach flu. To make matters worse, if the patient is somewhat hydrated, her symptoms may lessen and she will enter the so-called honeymoon phase.' Without proper, prompt treatment, the victim can experience rapid organ failure, coma, and death. But good news is on the way. S. Todd Mitchell of Dominican Hospital in Santa Cruz, California has treated more than 60 patients with a drug derived from milk thistle. The patients who have started the drug on time (within 96 hours of ingesting the mushroom) and who have still had kidney function intact have all survived. 'When administered intravenously, the compound sits on and blocks the receptors that bring amatoxin into the liver, thus corralling the amatoxins into the blood stream so the kidneys can expel them faster,' says Adams. Still, Mitchell cautions against the 'regular look"'of deadly mushrooms. 'They smell very good and when they're cooked, many patients have described them as the most delicious mushrooms they've ever eaten.'"

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she (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46223707)

only shes eat it?

Re:she (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46223759)

A dude wouldn't eat a mushroom.

Re:she (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46223949)

You swallowed the mushroom head of my dick last night at the Starbucks gloryhole. You aren't a "dude" anymore?

Re:she (1)

BryanL (93656) | about 9 months ago | (#46223767)

Men eat phalloides too, I guess. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

Re:she (1)

c0lo (1497653) | about 9 months ago | (#46224177)

Men eat phalloides too, I guess.

They may, but in their majority they still show a preference to the muscaria type. (nothing wrong with this either)

Re:she (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46223953)

Clearly implying that only women are stupid enough to eat these poisonous mushrooms.

Re:she (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46224379)

It appears that only females have symptoms.

Re:she (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46224519)

only shes eat it?

No, they opted to use the pronoun that best describes your average, typical human on Earth.

Re:she (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46224613)

only shes eat it?

No, they opted to use the pronoun that best describes your average, typical human on Earth.

Nope, 100% wrong.
English rules in all English-speaking countries default to the male pronoun when gender is general or unknown. Use of the female pronoun is ONLY in cases where you are only referring to females.
Any person using the female pronoun by default is simply trying to push some kind of agenda.

Re:she (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46224525)

only shes eat it?

I'm guessing both genders may or may not consume deathcaps.

I really wish white knighting feminist wannabes would eat a whole bushel of them, though.

Protip: masculine pronouns are the standard when writing about unspecified people. If you want to be an asshat, use 'he or she', 'his or her', et cetera. Feminine pronouns are right out. You can't just randomly insert whatever gender pronouns you want. That's what your misbegotten ilk whines is the problem.

Re:she (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46224649)

only shes eat it?

I'm guessing both genders may or may not consume deathcaps.

I really wish white knighting feminist wannabes would eat a whole bushel of them, though.

Protip: masculine pronouns are the standard when writing about unspecified people. If you want to be an asshat, use 'he or she', 'his or her', et cetera. Feminine pronouns are right out. You can't just randomly insert whatever gender pronouns you want. That's what your misbegotten ilk whines is the problem.

I propose a compromise.
He is bigoted against women, so it's right out.
She contains "he" within it, implying that She cannot exist without He, and is therefore just as bigoted against women.
It is never appropriate to use in reference to a human.
So we'll just make a new pronoun, gender-neutral and species neutral: SHIT.

There, now everybody is happy. You're welcome, Humanity, feel free to address my Nobel Peace Prize to AC.

Re:she (1)

r1348 (2567295) | about 9 months ago | (#46224583)

It's called "phalloides" for a reason...

News for the USA. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46223711)

Are there any tech sites athat aren't so USA focused? Slashdot has become really dull lately.

Re:News for the USA. (4, Insightful)

rk (6314) | about 9 months ago | (#46223809)

An English language website, hosted in the US, owned by a US company, administered and run by US employees is US focused? It's shocking, I tell you.

Re:News for the USA. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46223977)

News for US nerds. Stuff that only matters to them.

Re:News for the USA. (2)

rmdingler (1955220) | about 9 months ago | (#46224085)

Come on there fella... no one works harder doing dumb shit than we do.

After Sochi, comedians and internet posting wizards such as yourself would run out of material if we straightened out over here in The Colonies.

Re:Not Tech Anymore (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46224267)

Slashdot is tech-political hybrid msm news website

Re:News for the USA. (2)

cold fjord (826450) | about 9 months ago | (#46224095)

To be fair, the story did note that, "the death cap mushroom is now an invasive species on every continent except Antarctica," and the last link was to an incident in Australia. So it could be coming soon to a table near you ... unless you are in Antarctica.

Re:News for the USA. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46224163)

An English language website, hosted in the US, owned by a US company, administered and run by US employees is US focused? It's shocking, I tell you.

Less than 30% of Slashdot's community is from the USA (27.3%). If you want all us "furriners" to leave, you'll be doing an even better job of depopulating Slashdot than Beta has.

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/... [alexa.com]

Re:News for the USA. (1)

xevioso (598654) | about 9 months ago | (#46224479)

You keep posting this link to the alexa stats. Although it looks like there has been somewhat of a drop lately, the statistics are pretty unchanged overall since last year.

Re:News for the USA. (1)

LWATCDR (28044) | about 9 months ago | (#46224639)

No one said that "furriners" sic had to leave. They should just not be any more shocked that a US based website is going to be heavy on US centric news. It would be as silly as if I complained that BBC is too UK centric.

Re:News for the USA. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46224775)

Everybody here is overreacting.

Nobody said it was necessarily bad that Slashdot was US-based. The OP just asked for a non-US-based one.

There's valid reasons for this. For one, it's generally understood that most English-language non-US sources include more international news, not just the news of that country (eg. the BBC is UK-centric but often understood to be less UK-centric than CNN is US-centric; this is hard to measure objectively but subjectively as a Canadian I find BBC news more interesting).

For another, it doesn't mean you're going to stop visiting Slashdot. Just no longer have it as a sole source of tech news.

Re:News for the USA. (1)

LWATCDR (28044) | about 9 months ago | (#46224839)

Every tech site is going to be US news heavy for the simple reason that Microsoft, Google, Intel, Apple, AMD, Cisco, and so on are all US based companies. CNN has an International version btw just as the BBC does. I will agree with you that the BBC is a great news service. As a Canadian all I can say is you guys suck. You should have made more episodes of Little Mosque, but you should have kept Reverand McGee and not had Yasar and Sarah divorce.

Re:News for the USA. (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46224801)

Less than 30% of Slashdot's community is from the USA (27.3%). If you want all us "furriners" to leave, you'll be doing an even better job of depopulating Slashdot than Beta has.

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/... [alexa.com]

Visitors by Country
Country Percent of Visitors
India 36.3%
United States 27.3%
United Kingdom 3.6%
Pakistan 3.1%
Canada 2.6%

In other news, Rich NRI asked to pay Rs 50L to ex-wife who earns 65k per month. [indiatimes.com]

Re:News for the USA. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46224383)

It's shocking, I tell you.

Nobody questioned WHY Slashdot had a US focus, that's clear and understood. You've clarified that this is YOUR site and you're not prepared to reduce the UScentricity. And that's fine if that's what you want, it's yours to do what you want with. OP was just asking if anyone knew of a better alternative for people who aren't interested in US "news".

So the question still remains, do you know of somewhere better to discuss (international) tech issues?

Re:News for the USA. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46224497)

An English language website, hosted in the US, owned by a US company, administered and run by US employees is US focused? It's shocking, I tell you.

The medium is different, but the sentiment is the same: By God I KNOW what this network is for, and you can't have it. [eyrie.org]

Ironic?

Re:News for the USA. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46224973)

An English language website, hosted in the US, owned by a US company, administered and run by US employees is US focused? It's shocking, I tell you.

You had me there for a while.

Re:News for the USA. (1)

LWATCDR (28044) | about 9 months ago | (#46224585)

No, Simple reason is Google, Microsoft, Intel, AMD, Oracle, Amazon, the FSF, IBM, and NASA. Not to mention Slashdot is a US based website, in english, and owned by a US based company. Your complaint is as dumb as if I went to France and complained about the lack of TV shows in english.

Badgers. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46223713)

Badgers Badgers Badgers.

Snake.

Fuck /. Beta.

Don't eat Smurf houses (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46223727)

'nuff said.

I would avoid these on the Natchez Trace in Missis (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46223747)

I have seen them every few miles, especially near certain ranges of markers. Some animals run up the hills crapping these out of their butt. I was considering picking up some to be analyzed at Mississippi State, but I decided against it. Unsafe. Not savory. Probably Bad for ya.

Alice needn't worry then ... (2)

Zero__Kelvin (151819) | about 9 months ago | (#46223795)

. 'They smell very good and when they're cooked, many patients have described them as the most delicious mushrooms they've ever eaten.'"

At least there is no chance in hell anyone would confuse them with Magic Mushrooms then ....

Re:Alice needn't worry then ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46223887)

https://www.erowid.org/plants/amanitas/amanitas_basics.shtml

Re:Alice needn't worry then ... (1)

rmdingler (1955220) | about 9 months ago | (#46223985)

Well done.

Why would you attempt to self-identify mushrooms? There is an deadly impostor for even Psilocybe (conocybe).

Re:Alice needn't worry then ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46224323)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conocybe_cyanopus is deadly but almost identical to a toxic species. What conocybe species had you in mind?.

Bruno Souza (-1, Offtopic)

Luiz Leonardo (3534005) | about 9 months ago | (#46223801)

Excelente post, estou acompanhando vocÃs a algum tempo. Estou divulgando vocÃs aqui no Brasil. www.ultimatecnologia.com.br

bit heavy on the fud (1)

K10W (1705114) | about 9 months ago | (#46223815)

over doing it a bit since they grow in Europe and I used to spend my time as a kid IDing fungi with my little book, yeah weird kid I know, and amanita genus have been particularly interesting to me. Also someone better tell this guy he shouldn't be doing that https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]

Re:bit heavy on the fud (3, Informative)

K10W (1705114) | about 9 months ago | (#46223847)

should have mentioned I mean they are easy to ID and eating unidentified fungi has always been stupid thing to do

Re:bit heavy on the fud (5, Informative)

Jane Q. Public (1010737) | about 9 months ago | (#46224345)

"should have mentioned I mean they are easy to ID and eating unidentified fungi has always been stupid thing to do"

"Easy to ID" is a relative term. Even experts get some fungi wrong. For example, there are poisonous species of Galerina that sometimes grow right alongside the prized hallucinogenic "Liberty Cap" mushrooms, and even experts have to take a spore print and use a microscope to tell them apart.

As a PSA, here are two warning signs displayed by A Phalloides as in that picture on Wikipedia:

First is the "veil" surrounding the stem just below the cap, which you can see on the larger mushroom that is setting on its side. The other is the "cup" at the bottom.

It is important to note that neither of these are reliable indicators. Some edible species of mushrooms have one or both. Many poisonous species of mushrooms do not.

The point is: unless you know EXACTLY what you are doing, treat those features as strong warning signs. Best not to eat any mushrooms that have them.

Phew! the Slashdot community is safe (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46223819)

Apparently the mushroom only affects women.

There is another way to "cure" it...but, (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46223821)

There is another way to "cure" it, but, some people would laugh if they heard the "cure."

-C

That's why (1)

kamapuaa (555446) | about 9 months ago | (#46223835)

That's why they say, if it tastes good spit it out! [youtube.com]

Re:That's why (2)

rtb61 (674572) | about 9 months ago | (#46224755)

An interesting evolutionary point, did the death cap evolve as toxic because it was so tasty, that only the toxic variety survived as the rest where eaten. In commercial terms would the death cap be an ideal mushroom to grow and selectively breed to eliminate the toxicity, being one of the tastiest varieties.

soup (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46223851)

Mmmh, time for some Amanita phalloides and milk thistle soup!

Killer Bees (2)

Ashenkase (2008188) | about 9 months ago | (#46223865)

Looks like the Killer Bees brought it with them from Mexico.

Last link is misleading. (1)

Max Threshold (540114) | about 9 months ago | (#46223873)

That's not what the article says at all.

Re:Last link is misleading. (1)

Desler (1608317) | about 9 months ago | (#46224023)

Exactly. It was only one patient and they died.

Re:Last link is misleading. (1)

kaliann (1316559) | about 9 months ago | (#46224171)

The deliciousness is in the previous link, not the last one. Poor choice of linkery.

Re:Last link is misleading. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46225029)

I couldn't tell. I tried clicking the last link, but it was a redirect to some other URL, so I cancelled the page load.

Mushrooms?! (1)

jennatalia (2684459) | about 9 months ago | (#46223883)

Where's Mario when you need him!

Why the hype? (5, Informative)

jo7hs2 (884069) | about 9 months ago | (#46223899)

Is this hype because it is finding its way into the food supply in stores either via getting into commercial operations accidentally or being picked and sold as something else by wild collectors, or is it just journalistic pomp? Because, as somebody who regularly photographs fungi while out photographing native orchids, I'm willing to bet only a very small percentage of the population would ever even consider eating a wild mushroom. Even 90+ percent of my hiking buddies, all of them reasonably good at plant and fungus IDs, would never consider taking that risk unless it was something very expensive to just buy, like morels.

Re:Why the hype? (4, Interesting)

magarity (164372) | about 9 months ago | (#46223971)

My in-laws from China are always wanting to pick mushrooms out of the yard to eat. It's amazing what living through the Cultural Revolution will do to make you save every penny and eat anything you can find not nailed down.

Re:Why the hype? (1)

jo7hs2 (884069) | about 9 months ago | (#46224033)

True. I have a Chinese friend whose parents collect napkins. Thousands and thousands of napkins. They are also of that age group. I suspect they fear running out of napkins. Many of my older Polish family members, especially those born in Poland between say, 1938-1989, displayed similar behavior...presumably for similar albeit somewhat less severe reasons.

Re:Why the hype? (1)

jo7hs2 (884069) | about 9 months ago | (#46224043)

The long age group was something of a joke, in case no students of history are around...

Re:Why the hype? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46224415)

Similar thing in the U.S. for those that lived through the Great Depression.

Re:Why the hype? (1)

cascadingstylesheet (140919) | about 9 months ago | (#46224883)

My in-laws from China are always wanting to pick mushrooms out of the yard to eat. It's amazing what living through the Cultural Revolution will do to make you save every penny and eat anything you can find not nailed down.

Oh great, so we have that to look forward to, as our very own cultural revolution proceeds ...

Re:Why the hype? (1)

jo7hs2 (884069) | about 9 months ago | (#46224019)

I should clarify...I mean in most of North America. Granted, certain immigrant groups may display a greater predilection for mushroom collecting, and I know it is a bigger deal in the Pacific Northwest of the US along with in Europe, but still, in NA it isn't a HUGE pastime.

Re:Why the hype? (5, Insightful)

Narcocide (102829) | about 9 months ago | (#46224049)

I think the issue is that though they are relatively easy to ID, they are new to the continental US and can be easily mistaken for the Straw Mushroom, which *is* edible, so people assuming this mushroom still only grows in Europe may be in for quite a nasty surprise.

Re:Why the hype? (1)

jo7hs2 (884069) | about 9 months ago | (#46224803)

Which makes sense from the standpoint of say, a website catering to those who pick mushrooms, but Slashdot? Plus, the whole thing is so full of hype that you'd think the mushrooms are throwing themselves into mouths.

Re:Why the hype? (2)

GoodNewsJimDotCom (2244874) | about 9 months ago | (#46224063)

Misinformed reckless people who want to take hallucinogen often lose their kidneys to mushroom. I know someone like this.

Re:Why the hype? (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46224103)

I'm a Finn and most people I know pick mushrooms during the summer and fall to eat. It's very common around here. Granted, we only pick things that we know to be safe. I guess one reason is that it's very common to hike around the forests and pick berries and mushrooms here due to:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_to_roam

I actually know of only one case in my (not immediate) family that has been poisoned by mushrooms. This was because of a French friend who was visiting in Finland and was living at one of my relatives. He cooked a dinner using mushrooms he had picked. The mushrooms he picked looked very much like a mushroom, which is a delicacy in France. Unfortunately, there is a mushroom in Finland that looks quite a bit like it, but is very toxic. However, you can eat it if you cook it three times in fresh water before consumption. Someone joked during the dinner "so how many times did you cook it?" and then everyone was off to the hospital...

It's just that so many Americans are so detached from nature and are afraid of that "you're standing on my property!" and getting peppered by bullets, that they don't enjoy nature...

Re:Why the hype? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46224145)

Problem is that the culture is different. Here in the US, oftentimes if someone is on your property, they are trying to "liberate" something of yours. Camping on someone's property in the style of northern Europe is completely unheard of other than hunting and hunting leases, and campgrounds/parks (which tend to not be used for camping as they tend to be places for the local gangbangers to call their turf.)

Generally, in the US, if someone is on your property, they are there to take something.

Re:Why the hype? (1)

jo7hs2 (884069) | about 9 months ago | (#46224785)

Except Vermont. Look up trespassing in Vermont. Weird state. Their marriage age is also a little low.

Re:Why the hype? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46224275)

You have over 90 friends that hike? Holy fuck.

Is there such a thing as Xtreme eating? (3, Interesting)

wisebabo (638845) | about 9 months ago | (#46223943)

So, is there such a think as Xtreme eating (like extreme sports?)

If the people who ate them " described them as the most delicious mushrooms they've ever eaten.'" have all survived once they took the antidote, would other people consider eating this mushroom KNOWING that they were putting their life at risk (assuming they had access to the antidote)?

I mean is this akin to eating the "Fugu" fish (which I have!) where, for some, part of the attraction of the food is the possibility that you might die?

Are there other foods which are (potentially?) dangerous or deadly but are so tasty that it is worth the risk?

Re:Is there such a thing as Xtreme eating? (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46224233)

Are there other foods which are (potentially?) dangerous or deadly but are so tasty that it is worth the risk?

It isn't worth the risk. Death caps inhibit a crucial part of cell metabolism, RNA transcription. It's interesting that they don't kill themselves. People usually die of liver failure since that's where the poison ends up (the diarrhea is of course also a sign of a large number of cell deaths, but those cells are more expendable).

Nicely tasting, absolutely deadly poisonous mushrooms with wide specificity but a large time-delay (about a week). Good for wiping out major parts of a herd. My guess is that it's due to their symbiosis with hardwood trees: gives some protection to those slow-growing trees from getting stripped of their bark by deer and other planteaters.

A single mushroom is enough to kill a person. Even with "antidote", you will do more damage to your liver and other organs than 20 years of heavy drinking.

You cannot compare this to Fugu since properly prepared, the meat of the fish will not cause any damage.

Re:Is there such a thing as Xtreme eating? (2)

c0lo (1497653) | about 9 months ago | (#46224381)

So, is there such a think as Xtreme eating (like extreme sports?)

If the people who ate them " described them as the most delicious mushrooms they've ever eaten.'"

In most of the cases, the expression would change to: "the most delicious mushrooms they'll ever eat".
You see, a human body has only one liver.

Re:Is there such a thing as Xtreme eating? (1)

DNS-and-BIND (461968) | about 9 months ago | (#46224523)

I read a story about a man who ate death caps and survived. He said they were unexpectedly bland. Fugu is pretty bland, too, and expensive. I went to the cheapest place I could find, $45 per person...which of course means they had the least-skilled chef there. Eek.

Re:Is there such a thing as Xtreme eating? (2)

phantomfive (622387) | about 9 months ago | (#46224589)

Yeah, actually, when I saw that, it made me want to try it.

Then I read the article, and the article sounded like the mushrooms weren't super delicious, but rather the chef who prepared it was very good at preparing food. Further, it read like a eulogy, where you only say good things about the recently deceased. Even when they died from picking their own mushrooms.

So I'm not sure there is widespread agreement that the mushrooms are so delicious.

so dont eat them (3, Insightful)

Lumpy (12016) | about 9 months ago | (#46224027)

Honestly, who is picking up random shrooms and eating them?

Re:so dont eat them (1)

cold fjord (826450) | about 9 months ago | (#46224119)

Mainly the sick and the dead.

Re:so dont eat them (4, Funny)

Nyder (754090) | about 9 months ago | (#46224281)

Honestly, who is picking up random shrooms and eating them?

"Hey dude, check this out, a mushroom"
"I'll give you $10 to eat it"
"Really? "*mushroom in mouth*" there, done, you owe me $10. Fuck, this tastes great, you should try one"
"Really? give me one"

That is how it happens.

Re:so dont eat them (3, Insightful)

Lumpy (12016) | about 9 months ago | (#46225043)

That's called Darwinism and it is a good thing.

Re:so dont eat them (2)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | about 9 months ago | (#46224297)

Maybe it's just a sign of the hard economic times, with a third of the country on food stamps, or whatever. Folks are just looking for free things to eat . . .?

milk thistle cure is not new (0)

jcomeau_ictx (696704) | about 9 months ago | (#46224059)

European countries have used milk thistle for this purpose for centuries if not millennia, but US doctors have been blocked from using it by the FDA for years; they'd rather have people die than be cured by something not patentable. hopefully this situation will change someday, even if it has to be because Merck or another Big Pharma firm comes up with a synthesized, patentable work-alike drug similar to silibinin hemisuccinate.

Re:milk thistle cure is not new (1)

tomhath (637240) | about 9 months ago | (#46224409)

FTFA:

“When we present to FDA, it will be a slam dunk for approval,” he told Slate. “The drug has virtually no side effects, it’s very well tolerated, and if used correctly it’s awesomely effective.”

The doctor doing the research doesn't seem to share your concern.

Re:milk thistle cure is not new (2)

gmhowell (26755) | about 9 months ago | (#46224621)

FTFA:

“When we present to FDA, it will be a slam dunk for approval,” he told Slate. “The drug has virtually no side effects, it’s very well tolerated, and if used correctly it’s awesomely effective.”

The doctor doing the research doesn't seem to share your concern.

Admitting that would mean GP couldn't engage in some anti-American douchebaggery, a very popular slashdot pasttime.

Re:milk thistle cure is not new (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46224581)

European countries have used milk thistle for this purpose for centuries if not millennia, but US doctors have been blocked from using it by the FDA for years; they'd rather have people die than be cured by something not patentable. hopefully this situation will change someday, even if it has to be because Merck or another Big Pharma firm comes up with a synthesized, patentable work-alike drug similar to silibinin hemisuccinate.

You are more than welcome to buy and sell Milk thistle all you want. BUT if you're going to sell it for human consumption, or as a medical remedy, you need some kind of factual evidence to back up your claims, as well as some hard data about side effects, toxicity levels, allergic reactions, etc.

I know, I know, we all love to bash on "Big Pharma" and see conspiracies around every corner. But the fact is that without such laws in place, we'll be back in the good old days when you could pick up a bottle of pure mercury at the grocery store to drink for your STD's. Up until the FDA was established you could put pretty much anything you wanted into a bottle and sell it as a "cure" or "remedy".

Homeopathy might work, and it might even have valid medical uses, but it's not Medicine. If you want an example of a Homeopathic cure which IS allowed for actual medical use, Aspirin is the winner. Various plants which are naturally high in aspirin have been used as remedies in teas and tinctures for as far back as we have recorded history. But we don't allow those plants to be sold as "medicine" because while they contain medicine, they can contain a lot of other stuff as well.

Re:milk thistle cure is not new (1)

mrbester (200927) | about 9 months ago | (#46224981)

You can buy milk thistle in various forms in health foods shops in UK and have been able to do so for *decades*. If there was a problem with this unregulated remedy (hint: there isn't) it would have been discovered by now.

Don't know why you're babbling about homeopathy. Aspirin isn't homeopathic. Never has been. Neither is milk thistle.

Re:milk thistle cure is not new (1)

serbanp (139486) | about 9 months ago | (#46225059)

In US, pharmacies carry milk thistle capsule bottles. I know this because back in 2010 I was concerned that some of the Agaricus I have harvested was not Agaricus... Wikipedia mentioned the milk thistle, the ER doctor know about it too (and still gave me the active charcoal regimen, ewww) - it's obvious that this was common knowledge at the time.

This study must have lasted a long time. There are only a few poisonings every year around these parts (Santa Cruz mountains, the Peninsula), to gather 60+ patients takes time and patience.

just eat only mushrooms you know (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46224123)

Learn about mushrooms, and eat the ones you know and recognize, and don't trust what you did not pick yourself, it's quite simple.

Re:just eat only mushrooms you know (1)

wulfhere (94308) | about 9 months ago | (#46224635)

Or do what I do, and skip them all together. Yuck.

Invasive? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46224175)

How can it be an invasive species on every continent except Antarctica, unless it either originated in Antarctica (which I doubt) or in outer space (which I doubt more).

All mushrooms are edible (1)

SAN1701 (537455) | about 9 months ago | (#46224195)

At least once.

Mushrooms are bad (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46224211)

I consider anyone who eats mushrooms to have suspect decision making processes.

Re:Mushrooms are bad (2)

rmdingler (1955220) | about 9 months ago | (#46224369)

I consider anyone who eats mushrooms to have suspect decision making processes.

So you're antifungal?

Re:Mushrooms are bad (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46224633)

At least he is not fungicidal.

Interesting little antidote... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46224425)

I have eaten plenty of wild mushrooms but only in Europe when I was young under my father's supervision. One time I even found a wild asparagus stock and ate it. Interestingly enough is that when I was back here in the states walking through the park. I saw some mushrooms growing and ask my dad about picking them. He said not to because he wasn't familiar with american mushrooms having grown up in Sweden. So don't pick mushrooms up if you're not familiar with the local mushrooms....

There are old mushroom eaters, and bold mushroom (1)

musmax (1029830) | about 9 months ago | (#46224431)

eaters. But there are no old, bold mushroom eaters.

She loves to come home and eat the D (0)

musmax (1029830) | about 9 months ago | (#46224475)

And why not, she can eat whatever she wants, its her right, right ? I mean its not like you need a vagina to eat shrooms and die.

Thank you noble 'shroom eater for taking (1)

mrmeval (662166) | about 9 months ago | (#46224619)

The Darwin Challenge.

Our current contestant is at Stage 1 and has gorged herself on 1 pound of prime poisonous 'shrooms.

Odds in Vegas are running 3 to 1 against her surviving 48hrs.

Care to play?

Click the link.

Hmm... Death Cap Mushrooms on a milk thistle bed.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46224661)

Sounds like Fugu might have some competition in the endorphin inducing meal department...

Seems familliar (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46224673)

I think Harry Dresden used this antidote once.

Seen this before. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46224715)

"abdominal cramps, vomiting, and severely dehydrating diarrhea"

Everyday at taco bell.

lol (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46224729)

Did anyone else notice the article had the word "diarrhea" in it? LOL

As a UCSC alum... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46224771)

...a story about people eating random mushrooms they find growing on the ground...Santa Cruz has to be involved.

death cap? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46224815)

not trying to be rude, but do people eat poisonous, wild mushrooms without knowing? i'm just asking. I buy my mushrooms from the grocery store.

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