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NASA Pondering Two Public Contests To Build Small Space Exploration Satellites

samzenpus posted about 9 months ago | from the build-it-for-us dept.

NASA 127

coondoggie writes "NASA today said it was looking into developing two new Centennial Challenge competitions that would let the public design, build and deliver small satellites known as Cubesats capable of operations and experiments near the moon and beyond. The first challenge will focus on finding innovative ways to allow deep space communications with small spacecraft, while the second focuses on primary propulsion for small spacecraft."

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NO! (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46169793)

If you move me to the beta slashdot abortion i'll add this place to the block list and never visit again.

Too many other news sites regurgitate the exact same storys i see here. And all of them don't look as shitty as the beta slashdot.

Stop being stupid

Re:NO! (5, Informative)

Koen Lefever (2543028) | about 9 months ago | (#46169877)

I don't come here for the stories, I come here for the comments. Whatever trolling is going on, there always was somebody with relevant knowledge around.

I have been reading /. since 1998 almost every day (changed userID when I changed e-mail address), loading everything in full at level 0 and summaries at level -1 (not because I love trolls, but because some really interesting AC comments never get modded up.) In the Beta, it just doesn't work like that anymore - that is a big difference with all previous /. restylings.

Filled in the survey, like many others did, it seems we are being ignored. I would rather go back to a monochrome 40 character width screen than to the /. beta.

Re: NO! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46170211)

if they put a reverse filter in the beta so you could ONLY view at 0 or -1, it would be a lot better.
i might use the beta then.
but probably not.

Agreed (4, Insightful)

Anubis350 (772791) | about 9 months ago | (#46170543)

I feel like the beta is being pushed simply because it's new, and they're ignoring that it's not *better*. I've seen this before: after enough money's been invested in something a company will move forward with it whether it is actually good or not simply to avoid admitting they were wrong and the New Thing needs work.

I hope Dice doesn't keep pushing this without substantial changes. Outside of outraging their user base it will cost them in destroying /.'s brand and following - what they definitely paid more for than whatever they've thrown at the beta dev.

Re:Agreed (3, Insightful)

LordFlower (606949) | about 9 months ago | (#46170621)

I just spent a little time with Beta again to see if I'd acclimate.

Well, if it were some other site I'd shrug my shoulders, but I like being able to see more information on a single view as is possible on Classic.

It feel claustrophobic. I'm out when Beta is in.

Re:NO! (1)

Adult film producer (866485) | about 9 months ago | (#46169889)

Anybody have a greasemonkey script that will fix the beta site? I've tried to use it but just don't like it.

Re:NO! (2)

Kell Bengal (711123) | about 9 months ago | (#46170903)

That's just a band aid, not a solution to the problem. The rot goes inward.

Beta Haiku (2)

M. Baranczak (726671) | about 9 months ago | (#46169943)

Slashdot fartbiter
The Beta makes my clown weep
Oh God, more whiskey

Re:Beta Haiku (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46170577)

Beta faggot dawns,
Business intelligence reigns,
The end of Slashdot.

Re:Beta Haiku (2)

Kell Bengal (711123) | about 9 months ago | (#46170907)

The poem troll is right

This is the end of slashdot

Haiku makes me sad

Burma shave

Name the person who ordered the redesign! (1)

couchslug (175151) | about 9 months ago | (#46170581)

Seek out the guilty!

Who is he?

SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46170827)

Honestly you'd think that some crappy internet website committing internet seppuku is the end of the world.

Did all you basement dwellers whine when geocities went down? or altavista? fucking jesus christ sucking cocks in hell, you'd think /. imploding upon its owners own cretinous stupidity was the end of the fucking world. Even if you're not a basement dweller (i am not), your spirit of whiny bitchiness makes you one in spirit. honestly fuck you lame ass weak bitch faggots who care about this shit.

Over the last week the only thing worse than the beta layout is all the fucktards who insist on highjacking the comments of every article with their limp dick no balls complaints. Fuck you all. Honestly fuck you, you people and your ilk are doing more to destroy this site than any amount of beta changes could ever accomplish.

I agree /. was a pretty good news agg site, but it won't be for much longer SO FUCKING DEAL WITH IT!

Nothing lasts forever, even internet news sites. i suggest all you whiners grow a pair and deal with it, like you have to do when your parents/pets/relatives die.

There's nothing more certain than change and whining about it is what teenagers and the mentally immature do.

Beta (5, Insightful)

RyanFenton (230700) | about 9 months ago | (#46169809)

I'll join the crowd and help post in every thread that pops up, and upvote all the other comments I can find doing the same.

Slashdot Beta is not fixable - it is trash code that should be abandoned as a "lessons learned" exercise. It's not even a close decision - it's pretty much unanimous amongst the users - the ones that provide 90+% of any meaningful content on this particular site in particular.

If this advice that everyone is giving isn't honored by the local 'beta' admins, I believe it's time to start communicating with the people in charge, and pulling the levers of power a bit - and hopefully get these folks a stern talking to about what they were throwing away.

Shorter version: THE BETA SUCKS. LOSE IT.

Ryan Fenton

Re:Beta (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46169869)

Thank you for your comment.

For me it's that Slashdot has more or less not changed in design since the beginning. Once you change the design so drastically (and so poorly) it's just not Slashdot anymore. It's just another site looking generic and soulless doing the same thing tons of other sites on the internet try to do.

Not to mention the new design just displays the same data more spaced out. Beta is just a waste of white space and soulless looking. Once Slashdot is changed so drastically, it's not improved, it's just gone to me. I think the only reason I still visit this site daily is that it has stayed mostly the same since I started 10+ years ago.

Re:Beta (4, Insightful)

arth1 (260657) | about 9 months ago | (#46170613)

Not to mention the new design just displays the same data more spaced out.

No, it doesn't. It hides much of the data, making it difficult to get to, and impossible to get to without losing the context.

It seems deliberately discussion-unfrendly, and like many others, I come here for the discussions.

I left when the last beta was forced on us a couple of years ago, and it took a while before I came back - and that was only because someone posted how to trick the settings into displaying the working format.

But the new beta is ten times worse - completely unusable, and in a format only an MBA and his designer girlfriend could love. It's not for nerds who like to discuss, and post more than 160 characters.

Sorry, DICE, but Slashdot's user base is what makes it attractive. Alienate the user base, and you end up with nothing. Then the advertisers won't like you either.

And no, you won't attract fresh blood. Fresh blood doesn't come to sites that don't provide anything special. What was special here was the userbase, and that userbase [b]will[/b] be gone, unless you fire the incompetent nincompoop who decided on deliberately alienating the one asset the site has.

Re:Beta (5, Insightful)

Bob9113 (14996) | about 9 months ago | (#46169913)

I *LOVE* Slashdot. That's why I have spent so much time creating comments that I hope add value to the discourse, and put so much effort into my otherwise tenuous self-restraint regarding flaming. I come here to read comments, and to add value to the comment trees. I am happy for Dice to make a profit selling ads on the content our community creates by playing host.

That is a really good trade for all of us, Dice. Don't screw it up.

As for my personal #1 gripe: Don't require Javascript to read comments. OpenStreetMaps is content that begs to be browsed dynamically. Reading a comment tree is an almost entirely static endeavor. Keeping Javascript disabled on most sites is something I'm guessing a large portion of the audience here does. And remember: The audience creates the content. Lose one, you lose the other.

The Spirit of Mohdri Dragon [wired.com] Lives!

Re:Beta (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46169997)

I too like Slashdot Beta, and I'm a person who's hard to please. For example -- I don't like the smells of roses, or wooden floors, or even gasoline -- but I love the smell of my shorts when they have that smell of yeasty nuts and testosterone accumulated through days of chronic masturbation. And that's what Beta means to me, the hard work of multiple days of hard work stroking and stroking and stroking and getting absolutely nowhere except for making a big mess all over myself. Sure, that might turn some people off, but being productive and cognizant are both overrated.

But seriously, McGrew, fuck you for saying that I would be one of the few left after Beta takes hold -- that's like saying I'm willing to wipe my ass with the San Diego Union-Tribune -- I wouldn't dare disrespect my proud asshole by wiping it with such a piece of trash. It's a shame really, because I'm a troll and you are not, but I always liked you because I shared a mutual respect for not only the community, but the foundation on which it stood. And now that foundation is the UI equivalent of semen stains all over the place with little-else to show for it.

This makes me so sick I'm going to masturbate.

-- Ethanol-fueled

Re:Beta (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46170245)

I don't think most of this audience disables javascript, in fact it's foolish to disable javascript in this day in age. If you don't like being tracked there are various tools you can use against this but completely disabling javascript basically breaks the whole internet. There's just about no websites that exist today that doesn't use javascript so I don't understand why you people always insist on disabling it. It's not a security risk unless you want to start browsing scandalous websites, in which case I would highly suggest using incognito mode or something. Javascript is relatively safe and it's under the most extremely rare circumstances that it can pose any threats. Just keep your browsers updated and you will be fine. Stop being paranoid and get out from underneath that rock.

Re:Beta (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46170313)

Sure, fuckhead, sure. Or you're just stupid.

-- Ethanol-fueled

Re:Beta (1)

couchslug (175151) | about 9 months ago | (#46170623)

The redesign was ordered by a human.

Who is he?

Re:Beta (2)

arth1 (260657) | about 9 months ago | (#46170647)

The redesign was ordered by a human.

Let's not jump to conclusions here.

Who is he?

Nor that conclusion.

Re:Beta (1)

mrsam (12205) | about 9 months ago | (#46170009)

Agreed that beta blows chunks. It's nothing more than change for the sake of change. It doesn't add any more features, it nothing but eye candy. Well, it's intended to be eye candy, but the problem is that eye candy is in the eye of the beholder. I challenge anyone to find any actual change in beta that's not eye candy.

Having said that, I'm going to demand my money back. Oh wait...

Thinking about this situation, a bit: as much as it sucks, I see no reason to really get excited about it. It's not like I'm paying for this shit. I looked at that eyesore briefly. and I figure this: if, and when, its the only way to waste time, around here, if I find that I can live with it, I'll live. If not, I'll find some other place to waste some time on. I've got plenty of stuff bookmarked. Dropping one entry won't make much of a difference, in the grand scheme of things.

Re:Beta (1)

Teancum (67324) | about 9 months ago | (#46170195)

I gave my formal feedback on Beta and flat out pointed it was just awful all around in my replies. I don't mind promoting off-topic threads on the issue too as clearly the folks running Slashdot don't have a clue as to what it is that the site has been or what they can do to maintain the community.

If the beta becomes the standard interface, they will lose most of the traditional audience. I'm sure some folks will continue to stick around, but it won't be the same place. It sure is a hell of a gamble and it looks more like "not invented here" as a new generation takes over the site. It really is change simply for the sake of change and no other reason.

Hell, I don't even like the cute photos on the beta site either.

Re:Beta (1)

Thanosius (3519547) | about 9 months ago | (#46170383)

Having said that, I'm going to demand my money back. Oh wait...

Interestingly enough, Linux fanboys use the same argument when complaints about the state of various problems in Linux distros are raised... and then they wonder why not enough people use Linux.

Just because you're not paying for something doesn't mean it's beyond criticism and reproach. Not only that, but Slashdot's probably one of the longest-service sites that a lot of people here would have gone to over the years. A lot are concerned that this is finally the tipping point where Slashdot will never recover. You of all people with an ID that small should be at least understanding of that, if not necessarily in agreement.

Re:Beta (1)

SenorPez (840621) | about 9 months ago | (#46170075)

I, for many, do not welcome our vile beta overlords.

Re:Beta (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46170095)

Anonymous Coward here. Slashdot is trying to become http://www.nbcnews.com/

All hope is lost.

Re:Beta (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46170205)

As a web developer I understand exactly where they are coming from but the problem with their "highly marketable" design is that it has too much white and the font size is made for the blind. The design is "trendy" but it's not meant for this audience. This audience doesn't require anything fancy, things just need to work. Most of us are in I.T. somewhere and that's all we really care about, things working. We've all used something like lotus 1.2.3 where it's just a command prompt and as frustrating as those things were to use at times, they got the job done and did it fast enough to not feel annoyed. The non-beta version of the site worked fine, but it probably didn't generate enough revenue for DICE so they wanted to change the design around that could appeal better to advertisers. But face it, slashdot is a blog/news agrigator and there are millions of them around, thousands of which are likely better than /. ever could be but we stick around probably because most of us have been here for over 10 years. The news here is delivered late almost all the time sometimes a few weeks to a few years (not kidding). By pushing this new slashdot I think they are expecting to rebrand the site so that the "oldfags" will go away, stop complaining and appeal to a new generation, particularly those that have never been here or are still in late highschool / early college. I've seen companies do this over and over again, and rebranding is a big middle finger to those that have stook around for years even more than a decade like I have. So yeah, you can brush us aside but the moment that the beta is forced on us, I will be permanently leaving just as I have with Wired and Engadget. I appreciate websites that care about its consumers and when they do I disable ABP and do donate to those sites when they have a donation option available.

So Slashdice, it's up to you, but a website like slashdot isn't meant for high revenue, I know this because I converted a few of my personal websites from for-profit to "not for profit" since ads aren't that great anymore for certain demographics, and I did so because I cared about the people, not because I wanted to gain more profits from them. Go for it, I dare you. But no matter what you do, slashdot in the end is not a profitable business like you guys think it is.

And fix the "resource is no longer valid" BS. Every time I want to reply it does that so I have to refresh the page, find the thread I want to reply to and paste what I have.

Re:Beta (1)

SGT CAPSLOCK (2895395) | about 9 months ago | (#46170251)

srsly the beta sux

^ This comment looks ugly when viewed from the beta.

I assure you that it's BEAUTIFUL when viewed from the classic version though!

Re:Beta (1)

Princeofcups (150855) | about 9 months ago | (#46170347)

It's not even a close decision - it's pretty much unanimous amongst the users - the ones that provide 90+% of any meaningful content on this particular site in particular.

Maybe we are not the customers any more. This is happening on cheezburger too. Every month they get rid of more sites with intelligent posting and replace it with something with fart jokes.

Re:Beta (1)

TheNastyInThePasty (2382648) | about 9 months ago | (#46170461)

The beta doesn't add any useful new features. All it doors is remove them and severely fucks up the best part of this site: the commenting and moderation system. If the commenting system goes out the window, why would I come here? The stories are always several days or a week old, the editors are terrible at their job, and all of the actual articles are on other sites I could browse instead.

What the hell, Dice?

Fuck Beta (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46169817)

Beta != Slashdot

Once there's only beta, slashdot will cease to be slashdot. FUCK SOULLESS BETA

Buck Feta (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46169829)

Feta cheese was on sale today for only a dollar a pound.

That's a dollar and a pound of cheese more than the Slashdot beta is worth.

Re:Buck Feta (1)

MightyMartian (840721) | about 9 months ago | (#46170531)

Roses are red,
Violets are blue,
Slashdot Beta deals,
Like fetid monkey poo.

Tulips are pink,
Bumstains are brown,
Bury Slashdot Beta,
Deep underground.

Re:Buck Feta (1)

TheloniousToady (3343045) | about 9 months ago | (#46170629)

Glad to finally see someone finding a creative way to express the prevailing sediment. Though others may strive to be beta masters, you truly are the Master Beta.

Beta... (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46169837)

Geez, when are they going to shit can this beta web site. It is total garbage.......

Re:Beta... (1)

sconeu (64226) | about 9 months ago | (#46170881)

They're gonna shitcan the beta by making it production. It won't be the beta.

Make Beta go away please (5, Interesting)

nixon (12262) | about 9 months ago | (#46169841)

I've been a Slashdot quite a while, been so long I can't remember. This new beta site needs to go. The current layout works just fine. The new one looks like one of those SEO spam sites used to get clicks. Please make it go away.

Re:Make Beta go away please (1)

Areyoukiddingme (1289470) | about 9 months ago | (#46170761)

This new beta site needs to go. The current layout works just fine. The new one looks like one of those SEO spam sites used to get clicks.

I thought it was an SEO spam site the first time I saw it. I checked my browser address bar while muttering, "Shiiiit, hijacked," under my breath. I assumed those giant columns of white space on either side were jammed full of advertising banners that AdBlock had gleefully expurgated for me. In fact, I still think that.

Come to find out it was real. I actually spent half an hour trying to use it. Found it not just stupidly ugly (if you're using fixed width on the web, you're DOING IT WRONG, ASSHOLES!), but also nonfunctional. So I found the "make this shit go away" button and never went back.

Now they think they're going to force it on me? Ha. No more clicks for you, Dice.

Romney Beta (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46169847)

The Beta is not appealing to your base. Don't make your base stay home like Romney did. They'll go to Reddit or something other good site and stay there forever.

DON'T ROMNEY SLASHDOT

There are only 47% of us left as it is.

amusing trend in stories suddenly (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46169863)

Is it just me, or has there been an amusing trend in the stories posted recently?

Eg, there seems to be a correlation between the number of actual science and technology/engineering submissions getting through the editors, and the recent deluge of "fuck beta!" Posts...

Maybe all we need to do to stop getting bitcoin and iDildo "advertimonial" submissions is to complain about slashdot's new layout engine and completely ignore the story subject matter entirely?

Clearly, some testing is in order.

Just testing what unicode looks like on Beta (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46169977)

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Re: Just testing what unicode looks like on Beta (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46170017)

Indeed!

It looks like more than 90% of those escape sequences have been incorrectly parsed!

(Of course, this is being viewed on that *OTHER* abomination from the slashdot UI team, Slashdot Mobile)

If more than just a small handfull of those sequences actually render properly in beta, but not in mobile, then slashdot still fails it by having an inconsistent user experience between their mutually forced on the user UIs.

Re: Just testing what unicode looks like on Beta (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46170059)

Actually, it did that itself. I put Genesis 1:1-17 through a markov chain, then Google translate to chinese and posted it. The mutilation is on Slashdot's part, and differs from the old way where it just removed the unicode entirely. Maybe they have some half-finished unicode support going on in that mess of Perl and CSS overkill?

Re:amusing trend in stories suddenly (2)

M. Baranczak (726671) | about 9 months ago | (#46170025)

Yes, the trend is quite clear. Let's stay on it and see where it takes us. Who knows, by this time tomorrow, the editors might have explained the nature of dark matter, invented a better electric car battery, and brought back "Farscape". Either that, or their heads will have exploded. I see it as a win-win situation.

Beta. Suicide. Difference? (3, Insightful)

stastuffis (632932) | about 9 months ago | (#46169873)

I've been coming to this place for a while, mostly for the discussion.

I don't post much at all, but without an effective and easy way to consume/produce comments, this place is fucking worthless.

DOWN WITH BETA.

Boycott (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46169885)

On February 5, 2014, Slashdot announced through a javascript popup that they are starting to "move in to" the new Slashdot Beta design.

Slashdot Beta is a trend-following attempt to give Slashdot a fresh look, an approach that has led to less space for text and an abandonment of the traditional Slashdot look. Much worse than that, Slashdot Beta fundamentally breaks the classic Slashdot discussion and moderation system.

If you haven't seen Slashdot Beta already, open this [slashdot.org] in a new tab. After seeing that, click here [slashdot.org] to return to classic Slashdot.

We should boycott stories and only discuss the abomination that is Slashdot Beta until Dice abandons the project.

Moderators - only spend mod points on comments that discuss Beta
Commentors - only discuss Beta
http://slashdot.org/recent - Vote up the Fuck Beta stories

Keep this up for a few days and we may finally get the PHBs attention.

Captcha: fuckbeta

http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4757125&cid=46169357
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4757125&cid=46169451
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4757045&cid=46168351
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4756947&cid=46167453

Re: Boycott (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46170317)

holy fuck. you just blinded me. i clicked on that link i thought my computer broke. but it like holy crap you should have warned me. f'n beta sucks bad.

Save Slashdot Classic! (5, Informative)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about 9 months ago | (#46169891)

I want all of you to get up out of your chairs. I want you to get up right now and go to the window. Open it, and stick your head out, and yell, "I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!" I want you to get up right now, sit up, go to your windows, open them and stick your head out and yell - "I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore!"

Re:Save Slashdot Classic! (1)

geraldthewes (306845) | about 9 months ago | (#46170423)

Yes, save the classic version. The beta has nothing going for it.

Re:Save Slashdot Classic! (1)

PixetaledPikachu (1007305) | about 9 months ago | (#46170775)

I want all of you to get up out of your chairs. I want you to get up right now and go to the window. Open it, and stick your head out, and yell, "I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!" I want you to get up right now, sit up, go to your windows, open them and stick your head out and yell - "I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore!"

I would love to support your cause, but I need to ask you a question. What is the linux equivalent of this "go to your windows" step?

Hard to believe (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46169897)

Someone told me that slashdot beta was developed by al-qaeda operatives. I don't want to support terrorists.
Can anyone confirm this?

In other news... NASA says FUCK BETA! (5, Funny)

denzacar (181829) | about 9 months ago | (#46169911)

"NASA today said it was looking into fucking beta that would let the public fuck, bugger and dickplow beta known as "fucking beta" capable of sucking and being fucked near the moon and beyond. The first challenge will focus on finding innovative ways to allow deep fucking beta with small spacecraft, while the second focuses on fucking beta for small spacecraft."

Logged In for Beta (2)

haster (660321) | about 9 months ago | (#46169941)

Look I visit this site nearly every day and more than once a lot of days and have for nearly 10 years. I rarely log in, a few times in past couple of years. I also admit that I use adblockers so it is unlikely you have or will ever make any money off of me. BUT THE BETA SUCKS. You will lose my eyeballs if you implement it. It just has too much white spaces and is not information dense enough for me.

Re:Logged In for Beta (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46169945)

It just has too much white spaces and is not information dense enough for me.

This is exactly the reason it bothers me. And what's with all the pictures?

When did slashdot hire vic? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46169947)

Beta fucking sucks.

Time for a slashdotting. (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46170045)

Here is Dice's "Contact Us" page. [diceholdingsinc.com] Everybody be sure to call them tomorrow using whatever numbers from that page you can get to ring. Tell every darn receptionist in every darn one of Dice's holdings, along with anyone you can get them to connect you to, that the Slashdot beta is terrible and you won't shut up until it goes away. Fax them a well-illustrated complaint or two or three. Send them a choice letter via snail mail, along with whatever memorabilia you wish.

They keep soliciting our feedback, they can get our feedback, right where it counts.

Spread the word by mentioning this in every article's comments.

The most obvious contact points are:

Dice Holdings Inc.
1040 Avenue of the Americas, 8th Floor
New York, NY 10018
T: 212-725-6550
F: 212-725-6559

Slashdot
594 Howard St Suite 300
San Francisco, CA 94105
Tel: +1-877-433-5638
www.slashdot.com

Re:Time for a slashdotting. (1)

Princeofcups (150855) | about 9 months ago | (#46170371)

Slashdot
594 Howard St Suite 300
San Francisco, CA 94105

So they are no longer in Michigan? Is that just an empty office/mailing address? That is right by the BART Montgomery station. I think I will stop by tomorrow and see if any actual people are there.

Beta blows (4, Insightful)

sharky611aol.com (682311) | about 9 months ago | (#46170061)

So I guess I still haven't been forced over to the dark side yet, but I went to try it out again to just see if it still sucks as bad as last time. And yup, it does. Completely unreadable, absurd amount of scrolling, ridiculous forced spacing, asinine column widths. Seriously, what's it going to take to make this die?

Buying Slashdot (5, Interesting)

Gregory Arenius (1105327) | about 9 months ago | (#46170083)

What do you guys think a fair price for slashdot would be? I'm curious because I'm thinking about starting a kickstarter or something to buy slashdot and turn it into a community run forum.

This site is valuable because of the community it has. I don't come here for the articles, I come here for the discussions. I know that the majority of the people who come here do so for the same reasons. DICE doesn't get that, and once they kill the community there won't be any real way to rebuild it. I think that would be a shame since I love this place. For all its flaws I think the community here is awesome.

So, what do you guys think? Is it at all within the realm of reason to buy slashdot and make it ours?

--Cheers,
Greg

Re:Buying Slashdot (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46170165)

I say wait until a few months after the Beta goes live. By then 75% of their regular readers will have fled and you will be able to purchase it at rock bottom prices.

Re:Buying Slashdot (1)

Thanosius (3519547) | about 9 months ago | (#46170417)

It's too late by then. When Digg changed their site they destroyed most of the appeal of people going there and lost most of their audience. Soon enough a site called reddit was born which had the same level of simplicity and community interactive as the old Digg had and it took off like wildfire. Eventually Digg reverted some of their changes and morphed into a semi-decent return to its own styling, but by then the damage had been done, reddit had made its mark and the rest, as they say, is history.

Slashdot will never come back from this.

Re:Buying Slashdot (1)

drussell (132373) | about 9 months ago | (#46170185)

What do you guys think a fair price for slashdot would be? I'm curious because I'm thinking about starting a kickstarter or something to buy slashdot and turn it into a community run forum.

This site is valuable because of the community it has. I don't come here for the articles, I come here for the discussions. I know that the majority of the people who come here do so for the same reasons.

Couldn't agree more... Except they'd never let us buy it... We apparently need to create a NewDot....

DICE doesn't get that, and once they kill the community there won't be any real way to rebuild it. I think that would be a shame since I love this place. For all its flaws I think the community here is awesome.

Amen, Brother....

So, what do you guys think? Is it at all within the realm of reason to buy slashdot and make it ours?

Highly unlikely.... Unfortunately.... Soon there will be nothing left here to be worthy of even an occasional visit and I find that very sad. :(

Re:Buying Slashdot (4, Interesting)

T.Hobbes (101603) | about 9 months ago | (#46170631)

There's a discussion about a fork over here [slashdot.org] .

somenickname (1270442) has registered some domain names [slashdot.org] that could be used (http://bangslashdot.org|.com|.net) (eg !/.)

Re:Buying Slashdot (1)

Areyoukiddingme (1289470) | about 9 months ago | (#46170799)

We apparently need to create a NewDot

Unfortunately slashnot.org is already registered. Maybe Matthew Strebe would switch it over from being a satire site (that he hasn't updated since 2006) to being a place for refugees.

Re:Buying Slashdot (1)

couchslug (175151) | about 9 months ago | (#46170769)

Damn fine idea. Dice bought it to fuck it up and doesn't have a mission, so they should be willing to sell it.

We could return it to its former glory.

destroy beta. (1)

CaptainStumpy (1132145) | about 9 months ago | (#46170097)

Re:destroy beta. (1)

c0lo (1497653) | about 9 months ago | (#46170409)

Way to go, capt'n.
Everybody complains about how beta has lots of empty spaces and you send a link for a page on mobile wikipedia with... you guessed right, lotsa empty spaces when opened on non-mobile computer.

Time for a slashdotting (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46170117)

Here is Dice's "Contact Us" page. [diceholdingsinc.com] Everybody be sure to call them tomorrow using whatever numbers from that page you can get to ring. Tell every darn receptionist in every darn one of Dice's holdings, along with anyone you can get them to connect you to, that the Slashdot beta is terrible and you won't shut up until it goes away. Fax them a well-illustrated complaint or two or three. Send them a choice letter via snail mail, along with whatever memorabilia you wish.

They keep soliciting our feedback, they can get our feedback, right where it counts.

Spread the word by mentioning this in every article's comments.

The most obvious contact points are:

Dice Holdings Inc.
1040 Avenue of the Americas, 8th Floor
New York, NY 10018
T: 212-725-6550
F: 212-725-6559

Slashdot
594 Howard St Suite 300
San Francisco, CA 94105
Tel: +1-877-433-5638
www.slashdot.com

Beta Sucks! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46170131)

Bring back CmdrTaco. Yeah, he never learned how to use a spell checker, but at least he would know better than to foist this beta abortion on us.

Re:Beta Sucks! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46170167)

He's the one that sold out. I miss the pre-sale days and the gnaa and bsd is dying. If only there was aws for him back then, he wouldn't have needed to sell to do deal with scaling. If i'm wrong, please correct me. Thanks.

Option to turn off advertising (1)

elloGov (1217998) | about 9 months ago | (#46170169)

Where has the option to disable advertising gone?
Here's the funny thing. Out of appreciation of being given a choice, I chose to not disable. However, now that it's gone, I feel as if it's forced down my throat.
I haven't tried Beta, but I'm gonna go ahead and join the revolt simply because "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". I'm satisfied with Slashdot Classic.

Re:Option to turn off advertising (1)

Chewbacon (797801) | about 9 months ago | (#46170271)

I'm still seeing it at the top of classic slashdot.

Beta is terrible (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46170201)

beta is terrible. when i view /. I want to have as many entries visible as possible. Beta reduces entries visible immensely. Again, terrible.

Get rid of BETA! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46170239)

Beta does not make it easier or better for me to consume information.

I prefer the current layout on a cell phone because it presents me with information, not graphics.

it doesn't hide information.

There will be no more real discussion here until.. (5, Insightful)

drussell (132373) | about 9 months ago | (#46170243)

This Beta garbage dies in a burning ball of galactic-temperature-infused inferno...

I should have seen this coming for months and set up a slashdot clone we could all move to... Hmm, shortsighted!

Shut it off... Turn it off NOW! Bad, BAD experiment!

Beta is to Slashdot as Windows 8 is to MS (4, Insightful)

Chewbacon (797801) | about 9 months ago | (#46170257)

Nuff said. You're just pouring gas on a fire with your base. Slashdotters are apparently happy with the site as is and appreciate its familiar usefulness. Beta fucks it up. FUCK BETA.

Slashdot Beta is an MBA Nightmare (4, Informative)

Kotoku (1531373) | about 9 months ago | (#46170293)

Slashdot Beta is the worst thing I have encountered in years. It's like someone took the metrics for time on page, click through rate, and advertising sales stats for pages viewed and total hits to create this abomination which is in no way useful to the users. I can get the content of Slashdot on Reddit/TechCrunch/AndroidCentral and more. I come here for the comments and the discussion. If you insist on killing the community I will throw in the towel on this site myself. Even "Slashdot Classic" used to be better before it was rolled out. Stop making things worse! It's like common sense doesn't work on you people.

Beta (1)

Jadeus (58441) | about 9 months ago | (#46170301)

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We'll prolly just end up with disabled accounts, but at this point that's not much of a loss. ;-(

Use NoScript to block Beta (1)

ub3r n3u7r4l1st (1388939) | about 9 months ago | (#46170315)

Try it.

Re:Use NoScript to block Beta (1)

faedle (114018) | about 9 months ago | (#46170333)

The argument can (and should) be made that I shouldn't have to use browser tools like NoScript to make a site "readable." And few people will:

This "new look" for Slashdot pretty much guarantees Slashdot continues down the path of irrelevancy, as another wave of people decide the downsides of (say) Reddit now aren't nearly as bad as the Microsoft Windows 8-inspired Slashdot.

Re:Use NoScript to block Beta (1)

c0lo (1497653) | about 9 months ago | (#46170745)

as another wave of people decide the downsides of (say) Reddit

At this point, https://news.ycombinator.com/ [ycombinator.com] starts to look appealing to me.

NASA's goal (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46170319)

NASA's ultimate goal, of course, is to try to locate that one life form in the Solar System that actually likes Slashdot Beta....

And then nuke it from orbit.

How long before we can no longer avoid the beta? (4, Interesting)

2phar (137027) | about 9 months ago | (#46170323)

I guess Ars is the place to go, even though the comments system is nearly as bad as the Slashdot Beta, at least the stories are fresher. The beginning of the end was when they launched SlashBI and we all thought it was an April Fools gag.

Where are the comments? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46170331)

This was posted over three hours ago. The site traffic has really dropped to nothing.

Proud AC since Oct '98

Re:Where are the comments? (1)

AK Marc (707885) | about 9 months ago | (#46170479)

The people that wanted to post comments had 5 hours of nausea generated by beta. They'll be back, and with lots of complaints.

Re:Where are the comments? (1)

MightyMartian (840721) | about 9 months ago | (#46170553)

That is if they didn't die of a cerebral hemorrhage after actually trying to read Stinkdot Beta.

Disable advertising (1)

maliqua (1316471) | about 9 months ago | (#46170341)

I generally left the advertisements enabled because i wanted to support slashdot, heck some were even interesting occasionally. but until they shove beta up their ass i will keep ads disabled and definitely wont give them a click

slashdot beta is about advert views, not community (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46170349)

DICE wants to make slashdot work like those bullshit news pages that give you 2 or 3 paragraphs of story, and 500 bazillion advert bars, with a "next page" button at the bottom, so that all those page loads to read a single article amounts to 500 bazillion adverts * #Pages.

Slashdot users want highly dense, and highly customizable data presentation that is effcient for consumption.

This is clearly the big divide. Dice wants money, slashdot wants content.

in the end, dice owns the servers, but the community creates the real content.

slashdot will stop being a place to see interesting commentary from industry experts, insiders, and hobbyists, and will instead just become another also-ran news aggregator.

Dice probably wont care, as long as total advert revinue increases; the very manifestation of short-term profits over long term losses that is destroying everything of value today.

unless Dice decides to stop being like very other bullshit company on the planet today, the slashdot community will have uproot, and make a new home for itself.

maybe we could try a reverse ask slashdot, where slashdot asks Dice hard questions about Beta, and other profit driven UI changes of that nature?

Drop the beta (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46170377)

The beta version of Slashdot is awful. Why force people to use something which is awful? Write-off the losses and get on with it. Slashdot is destroyed already. Just look at the comments now.

NO BETA (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46170391)

This looks like a poor imitation of every other tech site. Yes, the old site needed a clean up. But just a new coat of paint. This is a disaster.

Guys, don't pull a digg. Listen to your audience.

-- regular slashdot reader since 2002

Re:NO BETA (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46170411)

It needed nothing no coat of paint, in fact I'd welcome back the old icons and lack of gradients. Beta is basically taking slashdot's seo value and whoring it out for revenue. Any person with more IQ than a dog (no offense to dogs they're very smart it's just a phrase) knows /. readers don't want beta.

fuck you beta. fuck you dice holdings.

Leave the Betas in the aquarium. (1)

rugfrog (677604) | about 9 months ago | (#46170413)

If I wanted tons of wasted white space and larger fonts, I'd run windows 8 on a 50" TV. But I don't do that. Because I don't want that. Just like I DONT WANT THE BETA. Kill it, please.

Jon Katz (1)

Any Web Loco (555458) | about 9 months ago | (#46170437)

Come back Jon Katz! All is forgiven! Screw Beta!

WHOA! We don't need to go that far! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46170665)

Just because the Slashdot Beta site is remarkably shitty it does not mean we need to resort to something that drastic. Jesus Christ, son, be careful what you wish for!

CubeSat proposal (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46170443)

Send Slashdot Beta to the moon.

I just double checked Beta's appearance. Does it offer anything over the current design? No. It doesn't. Whether or not Beta gets killed, I can't wait to see a post blaming the "backwards users" for not accepting the changes.

Beta - Following in Digg's foot prints (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46170651)

http://nocachyblog.wordpress.c... [wordpress.com]

"You may have heard recently that news sharing/ranking website Digg had to lay off a third of its staff after a relaunch of its site flopped."

In other news... (1)

vomitology (2780489) | about 9 months ago | (#46170713)

hashtag buckfeta yes.

FuCK ALL yOu bETA WHINERS (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46170739)

Seriously, fuck you all.

On a more relevant note, iMO NASA should look at something like JAXA's Hayabusa mission. Freaking awesome and i bet nASA could do it 100x better.

Nobody wants to talk about tiny spacecraft. :( (1)

Areyoukiddingme (1289470) | about 9 months ago | (#46170831)

Fucking SlashBeta. Nobody wants to talk about tiny spacecraft. :(

Where will I go to talk about tiny spacecraft where I can read just the gems, without having to wade through all the dross in some bullshit forum format? For that matter, where can I go to read about tiny spacecraft where the people posting actually know anything? So much of WannabeSpace is jammed full of know-nothings who wouldn't recognize the rocket equation if it bit them on the ass. Sure, even on Slashdot, I'd only expect 100 or so posts, from the still credible mob of users (hundreds of thousands?), and a bunch of those would be bad jokes, but at least there'd be something.

Fucking beta...

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