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Space Junk May Require ISS Maneuver In Advance of SpaceX's Dragon

timothy posted about 2 years ago | from the always-something dept.

ISS 47

SpaceX's Dragon capsule, loaded with food and scientific gear, is scheduled to launch toward the ISS tomorrow evening (with backup launch slots on each of the following two days). There's a last-minute wrinkle, though: Space.com managing editor Tariq Malik reports that a piece of space debris "will pass near enough to the space station on Monday morning (Oct. 8) to require an avoidance maneuver as a safety precaution, NASA space station program manager Mike Suffredini said in a briefing [Saturday]." Tomorrow's planned flight is to be the first under a $1.6 billion contract with NASA that calls for a dozen resupply flights by SpaceX, essential in the post-shuttle era."

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47 comments

I only fuck other men (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41574161)

Women are subhuman. Take a list of Nobel laureates, remove all "peace" (even the magic negro got one) prizes and divide by zero^Wgender.

Women are manipulative whores, deriving all their power from subjugation of men with their powers of saggy tits. Women don't achieve anything by themselves. How many hard science papers are actually released by women? Nada.

Like all "special interests" groups, women have an unusual sense of entitlement. Except that unlike niggers, they had every chance to "prove" themselves through the history of mankind, not pick cotton all day long (unless they were female nigra).

The moment you don't want to buy that alligator-skin bag, a diamond ring, a status-symbol car, a kitten-fur coat, not only they spit out instead of swallowing, they pull out a gun on you and accuse you of criminal trespass. Then they miss at point-blank range. Such is the result of granting equal rights to the subhuman gender.

I'm all in favor of "separate but equal" amendment -- grant them a right to the kitchen and Valium, and for men to work their ass off trying to make a name for themselves. Praise the ones who make a difference, not the parasite with a victim complex.

"What is the difference between a man and a parasite? A man builds. A parasite asks "Where is my share?" A man creates. A parasite says, "What will the neighbors think?" A man invents. A parasite says, "Watch out, or you might tread on the toes of god..."

Re:I only fuck other men (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41574219)

Saggy tits are the best kind. I don't know what your point is.

Re:I only fuck other men (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41574233)

No, delicious flat chests are.

Re:I only fuck other men (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41574319)

You stay up there, I'll hang down by the belly button, and we'll both be happy.

Re:I only fuck other men (0, Flamebait)

Sarten-X (1102295) | about 2 years ago | (#41574325)

Feeding time.

Female non-Peace Nobel laureates: 28 [wikigender.org] (with two for Marie Curie)

Men publish more hard science than women: Not any more [leiden.edu] .

Women's chance to prove themselves: They did in antiquity [wikipedia.org] but have more recently had their rights curtailed and are slowly getting them back.

Nice try, though.

Re:I only fuck other men (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41574777)

Men publish more hard science than women: Not any more [leiden.edu] .

I think he's referring to hard sciences, not social sciences. Your link only considers the later,. We can pretend otherwise, but women rarely put as much effort as men, either because they don't have the time (babies) or because they don't need to.

Re:I only fuck other men (1)

Ironhandx (1762146) | about 2 years ago | (#41576473)

I don't agree with the troll, and points 1 and 3 are correct, but #2 is both misleading and most of it barely qualifies as science.

Social sciences are by their very nature extremely inaccurate and extremely prone to study biases.

Hard science is still majority published by men. There isn't a real reason for this beyond cultural, and actual real gender differences. Women generally end up having more interest outside of STEM and most women, at least in most first world countries, finding the Sciences rather boring.

Women tend to be much more social creatures that like to be involved in many things at once, while men tend to be more single-minded, which lends itself to modern science extremely well as extreme specialization is often a requirement to get anything significant done. People do tend to gravitate towards things that are an easy fit for them sooo...

Of course there are exceptions to every rule and your Nobel prize list is ample evidence of that. However I think we can expect the real sciences(excluding perhaps medical science) to be male-dominated for the foreseeable future.

Re:I only fuck other men (0)

bonehead (6382) | about 2 years ago | (#41574437)

Hang in there, dude.

Someday science will stumble upon the right medication for you.

Re:I only fuck other men (0, Troll)

EdIII (1114411) | about 2 years ago | (#41574689)

How quaint. A homosexual racist.

Let me guess. A women left you for a non-white person (probably African American with a larger penis then yourself) and your logical reasoned response was to go full homo and join the KKK?

More like a troll (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41574737)

I would have said bad troll but apparently I put too much faith in humanity when I assumed no one would fall for it and respond.

Re:More like a troll (1)

Hentes (2461350) | about 2 years ago | (#41576699)

I guess tastes differ, I find it a well-written and nicely built up troll. Definitely better than 'first post' or 'ur all faggots'.

Re:I only fuck other men (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41576059)

"than", dumbfuck.

This is normal. (4, Informative)

Sarten-X (1102295) | about 2 years ago | (#41574267)

I was under the impression that maneuvers like this happen every few months or so, so this really isn't a big deal at all. In fact, TFA says so:

NASA and its space station partners regularly move the space station when a piece of debris is expected to pass inside a preset safety perimeter. That safety zone is shaped like a pizza box and extends out 15 miles (25 kilometers) to either side, as well as a half-mile (0.75 km) above and below the station.

Re:This is normal. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41574279)

You do not have a legal right to do absolutely anything you want.

This may surprise you, but yes, I, in fact, do.


Why do you hate my freedom?

Re:This is normal. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41574435)

Why do you hate my freedom?

Nobody hates your freedom.

They just hate you.

Re:This is normal. (-1, Troll)

gagol (583737) | about 2 years ago | (#41575009)

Sure, I saw your post about you only fucking other men! Kudos to you! And! Yahoo! Rocks!

Re:This is normal. (4, Insightful)

camperdave (969942) | about 2 years ago | (#41574349)

I was under the impression that maneuvers like this happen every few months or so, so this really isn't a big deal at all.

What makes it somewhat of a big deal is that this is occurring so close to a resupply launch, especially because this is the first official commercial resupply launch (although, as you and the fancy article point out, it isn't really a big deal).

Re:This is normal. (0)

noh8rz9 (2716595) | about 2 years ago | (#41574573)

I wonder what the iss would have looked like if Steve jobs designed it? It would have been much simpler for sure, while at the same time better accomplishing its primary purpose (unless you believe it's primary purpose was to create jobs in key congressional districts). Where would NASA be today if they had a Steve jobs on board?

Re:This is normal. (-1, Offtopic)

busyqth (2566075) | about 2 years ago | (#41574779)

I wonder what the iss would have looked like if Steve jobs designed it?/quote> Brushed aluminum, a glowing Apple logo, possibly cubical.

Re:This is normal. (-1, Redundant)

busyqth (2566075) | about 2 years ago | (#41574799)

Let's try that again...

I wonder what the iss would have looked like if Steve jobs designed it?

Brushed aluminum, a glowing Apple logo, possibly cubical.

Re:This is normal. (1)

Teancum (67324) | about 2 years ago | (#41575193)

... and a price tag 2x - 4x more than any other company would normally charge for the same thing. You pay extra for that Apple logo. There may be some quality customer service and reliability with the logo worth the added cost, but nothing since the Apple II+ was very price competitive.

I still like the original oak cases of the Apple I computers though. That was real class.... and a design by Steve Jobs I might add as well.

Re:This is normal. (1)

noh8rz10 (2716597) | about 2 years ago | (#41576499)

and a price tag 2x - 4x more than any other company would normally charge for the same thing.

and it would be 10x less than the cost of the real gubment built ISS.

Re:This is normal. (1)

able1234au (995975) | about 2 years ago | (#41580787)

The Apple II+ was more expensive than other PCs at the time. It was the first computer i bought.

But price competitiveness is a difficult thing to compare as we are not comparing apples to apples (pun intended). So if the product is not the same how can you say the price is wrong? This might be true for comparing a PC today to another PC but even those offer different features, perhaps soft features like resale value, support, reliability etc. Given that most Apple computers were good value and definitely not 2x - 4x what another company would charge for the same thing. It may 2 x what another company would charge by leaving out those soft factors or not having to pay the same % of R&D by simplying copying Apple's work. Given that Apple could not "magic" up a product without R&D, i don't see how you come up with those numbers. Instead i will just assume it is a rant, especially given it is in an article nothing to do with Apple.

Re:This is normal. (3, Funny)

gagol (583737) | about 2 years ago | (#41575021)

It would not accept resupply from space ships of other companies/agencies... It would be able to do only one thing at a time and have rounded corners. Radio reception would be spotty at best. Nasa would have to sue every other countries because thay too have stuff in space that orbits, but it would be shiny and hippy. Seriously, we dont need that, he did enough damage already!

Re:This is normal. (1)

DerekLyons (302214) | about 2 years ago | (#41576169)

What also makes it a big deal is the source... Space.com - a website dedicated to space news. They're no different than any other news site in that they have to generate new content on a regular basis, and manned space, commercial space, and potential disasters are all great hit count generators. All three together make an irresistible trifecta.

Re:This is normal. (4, Informative)

commlinx (1068272) | about 2 years ago | (#41574459)

That safety zone is shaped like a pizza box and extends out 15 miles (25 kilometers) to either side, as well as a half-mile (0.75 km) above and below the station.

I wonder why it's shaped like a pizza box?

I guess the forward deflector array must be more effective on the vertical plane but anyone know for sure?

Re:This is normal. (4, Interesting)

Acheron (2182) | about 2 years ago | (#41574729)

Because orbital junk must be orbiting, thus it travels horizontally at much greater speeds than vertically.

Re:This is normal. (2)

4wdloop (1031398) | about 2 years ago | (#41574831)

Why speed?
Is orbit's altitude more predictable than its path?

Re:This is normal. (4, Informative)

camperdave (969942) | about 2 years ago | (#41574965)

My guess would be the limitations of radar. It is fairly easy to peg the orbital altitude from ground radar. However, it takes several readings to get the entire orbital ephemeris, especially if the object is small. As the parent post said, an object in orbit is travelling at much greater speeds horizontally than vertically, so the margin for error is greater horizontally rather than vertically.

Re:This is normal. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41575515)

Any other consideration may also be small break offs from the main object, bolts, nuts, pieces of insulation, etc all them will do damage to the space shuttle and would be orbiting undetected near their source.

Re:This is normal. (1)

ls671 (1122017) | about 2 years ago | (#41576321)

Nope, height is just known more accurately. You have to be at a very precise height to stay in orbit so the margin of error is much less.

And no, it is not shaped like a pizza box ;-)

http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3168191&cid=41576313 [slashdot.org]

Re:This is normal. (4, Funny)

martin-boundary (547041) | about 2 years ago | (#41575811)

I wonder why it's shaped like a pizza box?

It's to prevent a blitz-attack by spaceballs. The more ludicrous the shape of the safety zone around the space station, the slower the spaceball attack must be. Due to quantum conservation of ludicrousness. Well known fact.

Re:This is normal. (1)

throwaway18 (521472) | about 2 years ago | (#41576035)

"forward deflector array" ? Modded informative ?!?
The international space station is a real thing in orbit around the earth with real people on board.
Deflector shields are not real. Star trek is fiction, Captain Kirk was an actor in front of some cameras.

Re:This is normal. (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | about 2 years ago | (#41576073)

Being modded funny doesn't increase your karma (last I checked anyway) so many people use other mods in its place. It's a tolerable way to get around a broken (by design) system.

Re:This is normal. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41576173)

It's a tolerable way to get around a broken (by design) system

I didn't realize that 'underrated' doesn't give karma. Oh wait, it does. Besides, karma is mostly an 'entry ticket' to posting at a higher rating and anyone who posts regularly on this site who isn't capped already is likely an troll and/or a imbecile.

Re:This is normal. (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | about 2 years ago | (#41576361)

karma is mostly an 'entry ticket' to posting at a higher rating and anyone who posts regularly on this site who isn't capped already is likely an troll and/or a imbecile.

Speaking as someone who has been modfucked on funny comments before, I strongly disagree. I'm no troll. Perhaps I'm imbecilic, but then, it's hard to take such an accusation seriously from a coward.

Re:This is normal. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41576945)

> Pizza box
Because we're making preparations to use large space-based lasers to cook our orbiting pizzas.

Have a look at www.orbital.com, search for "louvers"

Re:This is normal. (1)

cjameshuff (624879) | about 2 years ago | (#41579873)

The ISS orbits just 400 km above the ground, and experiences enough atmospheric drag to require periodic boosts back into higher orbit. About the only debris of concern is moving horizontally when it reaches the altitude of the ISS, anything that goes past it to lower altitudes hits atmosphere and quickly gets removed from orbit.

Re:This is normal. (1)

WGFCrafty (1062506) | about 2 years ago | (#41574471)

It also says: They'll just adjust while they're flying if we have to do the move," Suffredini said.

I concur. Routine maneuver that's happening during a novel (kind of) situation. Irrelevant as far as I see, correct me if I missed something

pizza box analogy irrelevant (1)

ls671 (1122017) | about 2 years ago | (#41576313)

A pizza is 3 dimensions. This defines a 2D shape hence no thickness is mentioned, I imagine they mean the side of a pizza box which is rectangular while the surface is square:

From parent quote:
That safety zone is shaped like a pizza box and extends out 15 miles (25 kilometers) to either side, as well as a half-mile (0.75 km) above and below the station.

 

ISS 'Columbia' "Challenger' Moment (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41574337)

When the ISS 'enjoys' its 'Columbia/Challenger' Moment, will NASA and 'the' President say such is the work of 'Terrorist?'

The true 'Terrorist' in the minds of NASA and 'the' President reside within the mirror reflecting their faces to them.

That is the true meaning.

An Inconvenient Truth.

Re:ISS 'Columbia' "Challenger' Moment (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41584483)

Stupid * Stupid....

Ladies and Gentlemen, behold! Stupid Squared!

Sounds interesting but isn't (2)

Gothmolly (148874) | about 2 years ago | (#41574395)

Because it has "space" in the story, it seems interesting, but really, considering the amount of space junk out there and the now-familiar processes and procedures to avoid it, this is mostly boring stuff.

Crouching Station, Launching Dragon (4, Funny)

toygeek (473120) | about 2 years ago | (#41574913)

Subject says it

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