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Science and Technology Medals Awarded

ScuttleMonkey posted more than 8 years ago | from the tack-it-on dept.

Science 147

An anonymous reader writes "The Boston Globe is reporting that President Bush awarded science and technology achievement medals today to 15 laureates. The list of medal winners includes those who have done work that has 'revolutionized organ transplants, led to development of global positioning systems, and helped feed millions around the world.' "

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Great! (5, Insightful)

laughingcoyote (762272) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713419)

And since he's so up on the "spirit of discovery" being a part of American culture, he surely wouldn't cut funds for schools...

Re:Great! (3, Insightful)

Daniel Dvorkin (106857) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713474)

I believe the phrase is "keeping up appearances."

Re:Great! (2, Interesting)

flyingsquid (813711) | more than 8 years ago | (#14714285)

I believe the phrase is "keeping up appearances."

No shit. This is not an administration that has been kind to science. Last year they cut the National Science Foundation's budget (the NSF is a major soource of grant awards for facilities, researchers, postdocs, and graduate students in all areas of science). This year they increased it by 2.4%. On the surface that sounds great, but actually that's less than the rate of inflation- so it's effectively a cut, just not as large a cut. As the saying goes, watch what they do, not what they say. And if you watch what this administration actually does- cutting funding and trying to distort research to favor particular policies- you'll see why scientists are so overwhelmingly against Bush.

Re:Great! (5, Informative)

slightlyspacey (799665) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713667)

Hmmm, do you have any data to support your assertion that President Bush is indeed cutting school funding?

According to the Budget of the United States Government: Historical Tables Fiscal Year 2007 -- Section 4 -- Federal Government Outlays by Agency [gpoaccess.gov] that is simply not the case. Spending for the Department of Education is much higher and increased much more sharply under Bush than his predecessor (2006 EST $83 Billion versus 2000 $33 Billion). There is a sharp dropoff at 2007 to EST $64 Billion but this is still above 2004 levels -- perhaps this is the cut that you are talking about?

These sorts of accusations are of course nothing new [factcheck.org] . I would like to make a bold proposal that Slashdot posters actually take the time to read the articles, fact-check, and follow up with relevant posts.


Re:Great! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14713768)

I would like to make a bold proposal that Slashdot posters actually take the time to read the articles, fact-check, and follow up with relevant posts.

You're expecting a group of big headed, under qualified armchair scientists and sociologists to actually do stuff like research and be unbiased? You're new here, ain't ya?

wait I'm confused (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14713862)

I thought republicans hated public education. Isn't slashing education spending a good thing? Since when did Republicans become the party of big spenders?

Re:Great! (1)

bariswheel (854806) | more than 8 years ago | (#14714044)

Amen. You said this very well. People need to stop generalizing and throw out statements out there, rumors breed lies and lies create turmoil and unrest.

Here is some Food for thought (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14714114)

That's true. Federal funding for education has gone up about 40 percent since 2001. But in the last two budgets (including 2007), education funding has been flat or it has been reduced. This comes at a time when the No Child Left Behind Act is forcing states to spend a lot more money on testing, teacher training and school improvement to meet the law's mandates.

Taken from an NPR acticle here

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?story Id=5192631 [npr.org]

Its not fox so we know that it must be biased

you too could perhaps do some reading. (1)

sourbrew (935413) | more than 8 years ago | (#14714214)

Prior to the Bush administration the department of education had no real funding because they are largely hated by local school officials. Bush had to give them more funding when he started the hillariously named "No Child Left Behind Act." I believe that while the department of education gets more loot now schools don't get any of it. Which is why many states have toyed around with suing the government for requiring the mandatory tests that the aforementioned act requires

Re:you too could perhaps do some reading. (1)

Ihlosi (895663) | more than 8 years ago | (#14714337)

Bush had to give them more funding when he started the hillariously named "No Child Left Behind Act."

The name is not hilarious at all, it is downright scary if you append the words that have been left out after "behind": "by military recruiters".

Re:you too could perhaps do some reading. (2, Insightful)

Bing Tsher E (943915) | more than 8 years ago | (#14714949)

Better Military Recruiters than gang recruiters. At least they can go to college when they are out of the military. If they join a gang instead, they'll just end up in a different institution, for a longer term, at the same government expense.

Re:Great! (1)

mnemonic_ (164550) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713728)

*golf clap*

Re:Great! (2, Interesting)

RexRhino (769423) | more than 8 years ago | (#14714144)

If he cut funds for schools (which he didn't do), would that mean that we would start doing as well as the countries that spend 1/3 or 1/4 as much per capita on schools, and still kick Americas ass in Math and Science?

I mean, the U.S. is doing a pretty crappy job compared to other countries... and we spend more per capita than nearly all other industrialized nations - both in dollars and percentage of GDP.

Re:Great! (1)

Grab (126025) | more than 8 years ago | (#14714762)

If schools put as much focus on education as they did on sports, maybe all those other countries *wouldn't* be kicking America's ass. You know, I did hear once that schools were supposed to educate people, rather than just being a training ground for jocks. You wouldn't know it to look, though - sports teams get new shiny gear while classrooms are falling apart.

Grab.

Re:Great! (1)

AdamWeeden (678591) | more than 8 years ago | (#14714953)

You wouldn't know it to look, though - sports teams get new shiny gear while classrooms are falling apart.

That's overly simplistic. Sports teams also GENERATE revenue. If only 200 people show up to your local high school football game and spend 5$ to get in and 2$ each at the concession stand, you have already made $1400 minus food costs. I'd say that the numbers listed are pretty conservative estimates (at least when I went to high school at a relatively small high school), and considering most high school teams will have 5-6 home games, they usually make more money for the school than they spend. I'm no jock, nor some jock apologist, but just as I resent backlash against others based by the ignorant because of their high intelligence (i.e., jocks picking on nerds), it's also unfair to have a backlash against someone who is more adept physically than others. Each one has it's value, whether you can see that or not.

And here I was hoping ... (5, Funny)

Daniel Dvorkin (106857) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713421)

... to get some recognition for my ungodly half-man-half-ape mutant creation, the prototype of the human-animal hybrid super-army which will set me on the road to world conquest. But Bush pretty much put the kibosh on that a little while back.

Damn you, inconveniently timed State of the Union address! DAMN YOU!







Ah, well, no matter. I shall simply toil in obscurity a little while longer -- and then when the day comes, let the planet tremble at my name! You laughed at me! You called me mad! I'll show you! I'LL SHOW YOU ALL!

Re:And here I was hoping ... (1)

dcapel (913969) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713964)

I for one welcome our ungodly half-man-half-ape mutant creation and their creator as overlords.

Bush vs. Science (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14713426)

Bush? Awarding medals for Science? That's rich.

Baer should be knighted (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14713429)

FTA: Ralph H. Baer, For creating Pong! WOOT!!!!

Re:Baer should be knighted (2, Interesting)

east coast (590680) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713679)

FTA: Ralph H. Baer, For creating Pong! WOOT!!!!

Laugh all you want but the idea of bringing technology to the masses sometimes makes all the difference. Look at Carl Sagan, the man didn't do much for the progress of science but rather the promotion of science. How many kids do you think were spurred on by Mister Wizard?

The video game may not be meaningful in the long run but it did bring the potential use of technology to the masses and I'll bet a lot of people on Slashdot, in part, owe something to this small step forward.

And They Receive? (1)

BuddyJesus (835123) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713441)

So what exactly do the winners of these awards get besides some face time and a piece of shiny metal?

Re:And They Receive? (3, Informative)

jcorno (889560) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713492)

No prize money, just the medal. This is a U.S. government thing. There's no way any significant prize would be approved by Congress. http://www.technology.gov/medal/ [technology.gov]

Re:And They Receive? (3, Insightful)

msbsod (574856) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713517)

Those awards are an asset to the researchers' CV. And that is what they need when they apply for a grant (real money).

Re:And They Receive? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14713966)

Something tells me that these aren't the people that need help getting grant money.

I couldn't RTFA so.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14713497)

can someone tell me who won the gold medal for
"Longest Chair Throw in the Field of Technology"?

Hrmmm? (-1, Troll)

eyepeepackets (33477) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713443)

Hey, high achievement awards for science and technology handed out by a dishonest dolt. There's some humor there some where but I'm not digging for it, I just washed my hands.

Re:Hrmmm? (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14713622)

It's not that bad. Think of it this way:

If a Democrat had presented the awards, it would just have gone to show that Democrats are all elitist university-educated intellectuals who think they know better than the rest of us. So their career in politics would be over.

If a non-neocon Republican had presented the awards, they would have had to resign to spend more time with their families like all of the other non-neocons. So their career in politics would be over too.

If a political independent had presented the awards, nobody would care and the ability of the scientists to get adequate funding would be as low as ever. And the political independent's career in politics would already be over, by definition.

But because Bush presented the awards, there are more than the normal amount of headlines due to the irony of the awards being presented by an anti-science imbecile--and that's actually good for the scientists' ability to get adequate funding. And Bush's career in politics might be over due to the sweet merciful relief of the 22nd Amendment, should the Constitution still be around for two more years.

So, you know, look at the bright side.

vague.... (5, Funny)

caffeinemessiah (918089) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713446)

From the article: Dennis P. Sullivan, City University of New York Graduate Center and State University of New York at Stony Brook, for his work in mathematics, including the creation of entirely new fields of mathematics, and uncovering unexpected connections between seemingly unrelated fields.

Seems that they're REALLY filtering the science news for the masses these days...

Re:vague.... (1)

skoaldipper (752281) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713516)

But from the not so vague department...

Norman E. Borlaug, Texas A&M University; College Station, Texas, for breeding semi-dwarf, disease-resistant high-yield wheat and instructing farmers in its cultivation to help ease starvation.

Whoop! Gig 'em ag. And congrats! By the way, I'm still waiting for the purple carrot to hit my local HEB grocer. That would definitely curb my appetite. Or maybe not. I bet 2 tablespoons of melted butter lavished atop my purple carrot with a sauerkraut side and a kolbase would keep things rolling...

Re:vague.... (3, Funny)

strider44 (650833) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713549)

They had to find *some* way of explaining it to George Bush.

Hey, I go there.... (3, Informative)

dhasenan (758719) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713568)

And the math department's decent, surprisingly. Good in geometry; for instance, Stony Brook is responsible for FIST (Fast Industrial Strength Triangulation), which was commissioned by Sun for the standard Java library. (Triangulation is basically separating a polygon into a set of triangles.)

In case you were wondering, here's Dr. Sullivan's website: http://www.math.sunysb.edu/~dennis/ [sunysb.edu]

Re:Hey, I go there.... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14713663)

Stony Brook is responsible for FIST (Fast Industrial Strength Triangulation)
Rawr, stop you are making me horny...

Re:Hey, I go there.... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14713780)

I could of sworn Miss Jameson was responsible for that...

Re:vague.... (3, Interesting)

Coryoth (254751) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713842)

Seems that they're REALLY filtering the science news for the masses these days...

The quote you cite is actually pretty much straight from the NSF announcement [nsf.gov] of the awards, so the dumbing down happened at that level, not from the newspaper. I had a quick skim through his recently published papers (as in titles and MathSciNet reviews) and while he is obviously doing some interesting work, apparently mostly in algebraic and differential topology, I couldn't easily discern what new fields he's created, nor what unexpected connections he's made - so it indeed would have been nice if the summary had included just a little more information clarifying that. I'm honestly curious now - can anyone provide a quick overview of his more important contributions?

Jedidiah.

Is it April 1 already?? (0, Troll)

pair-a-noyd (594371) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713459)

Bush and ilk are the most ANTI-science crowd to come along in years.
I think the whole article is flamebait.

Re:Is it April 1 already?? (2, Insightful)

ScentCone (795499) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713486)

I think the whole article is flamebait

No doubt. Please also post later tomorrow so you can link to an article showing how those scientists have refused the awards and recognition, etc.

Skipping to tomorrow: <crickets chirping>

So... (1)

garrett714 (841216) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713473)

...were these hand-picked by Bush himself or suggested to him by an advisor?

Re:So... (2, Funny)

TubeSteak (669689) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713665)

...were these hand-picked by Bush himself or suggested to him by an advisor?
Hand picked obviously. I also have no doubt that he read their published papers too.

Bush isn't the intellectual featherweight people seem to think he is and his writings show it. He had a good run as President from '89-'93.

Oh wait... You mean Bush Jr?

I hereby (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14713476)

I hereby welcome our new intelligent design overlord masters.

Now go back to your pens. Didn't you hear there's a shortage of engineers? You should be proud of being enslaved for the good of the nation.

Know Thy Enemy (3, Insightful)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713477)

He handed a medal to Kenneth J. Arrow, Nobel prize winner for "general economic equilibrium theory and welfare theory", and to Robert N. Clayton for his chemical analyses describing solar system evolution. Economic equilibrium, welfare and evolution - none of which Bush seems interested in the rest of the year.

Maybe he thinks he's at the Olympics, and these medalists need his help to get corporate sponsors for some advertising dollars to, you know, kind of catapult the propaganda.

Soylent GPS organ crackers is people!!!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14713478)

'revolutionized organ transplants, led to development of global positioning systems, and helped feed millions around the world.'

Those 3 awards went to ONE person!

It's a cookbook!

Oh? Did he award one to that dropout at NASA? (3, Insightful)

geoswan (316494) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713487)

What a joke. He appointed that militant fundamentalist to censor NASA. The kid was a dropout, who had never had a full-time job, and whose only qualification was that he had served on Bush's 2004 electoral campaign.

Before he awards any Science awards he should fire all the ignorant political appointees he placed to oversee real scientists. He should fire anybody who is as incompetent and unqualified as "You are doing a heck of a job Brownie."

Re:Oh? Did he award one to that dropout at NASA? (3, Insightful)

breadboy21 (856238) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713670)

You must be new to the politicial scene. If you'd be paying the slightest bit of attention you'd see that lower level positions are routinely given to lower level underlings in almost every administration. This goes for Clinton, Carter, Kennedy (brother for Attorney General anyone), and all the Republicans of the 20th century. What you should realize is that little political games (the Reno Justice department refusing to enforce laws it didn't like for example) are played all the time irrespective of who is currently in the white house. So save your indignation for a noble field, you won't find much to love here.

Maybe it's too much to ask... (4, Insightful)

fortinbras47 (457756) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713502)

...but it would be nice to see comments on the actual science and prize winners as opposed to ten million uninformative, reflexive Bush bashing posts.

I'd like to know more about the science. I don't really if an individual poster likes or dislikes Bush.

Re:Maybe it's too much to ask... (4, Insightful)

PornMaster (749461) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713534)

While I'm not a fan of discounting everything the man does, you have to admit that for him to present science awards is a bit like Microsoft handing out awards for open source development.

This isn't meant to debate the principles, or even take away from the work of those given the awards, but it's rather plain to see that the President has made himself worthy of ridicule when it comes to science.

Even if it's only symbolic, I'd rather see such things presented as national awards by noted scientists, perhaps with an appearance or a note from W congratulating the winners.

Re:Maybe it's too much to ask... (1)

amliebsch (724858) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713690)

While I'm not a fan of discounting everything the man does, you have to admit that for him to present science awards is a bit like Microsoft handing out awards for open source development.

No, it's not. Like it or not, as the President, he is the representative of the United States in these kinds of matters. The duty falls to him personally but to the office.

Re:Maybe it's too much to ask... (1)

Stiletto (12066) | more than 8 years ago | (#14714097)


Nobody is questioning whether it's his offices's duty to present these awards. We are only reflecting on the irony of George W. Bush, a man seemingly bent on setting science back decades, presenting science awards. To make another analogy, it is like Philip Morris presenting fitness awards.

Re:Maybe it's too much to ask... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14714246)

Yes it's entirely coincidental that this opportunity to do that duty comes along when the president desperately needs something to improve his image among the "fact-based community". Kinda like that shoe-bomber plot against LA that was stopped in 2001 which we only hear about after the NSA warrantless domestic spy program comes to light.

Such awards are about manipulating perceptions, but in the past, they seemed to be calling attention to achievements of lasting value, which we would have applauded on our own if only we had the knowledge and time to pore over mountains of peer-reviewed journals. In the current situation, we can only see this event as a rather poorly disguised attempt to garner a few more points in the polls. It seems to us intuitively that the committee that chose these laureates must be staffed much the same way that FEMA has been, the FDA appointments, the K-Street-we-only-talk-to-republican-lobbyists echo chamber/revolving door, the management of public radio, of NASA, staffiing in National Parks. And we find ourselves wondering about the party affiliations of the scientists themselves-- This is not to say the scientists don't deserve this symbolic medal, only that our faith in its meaning is irreparably broken. Competence, vision, values matter not--it's all about party loyalty now. So in the end, the awards manage to cheapen and devalue the very thing they are meant to lift up.

Re:Maybe it's too much to ask... (1)

DirePickle (796986) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713668)

Man, Bush sucks.

Re:Maybe it's too much to ask... (1)

Hinin (954373) | more than 8 years ago | (#14714213)

I agree. I don't have a lot of interest in politics although they affect my job quite a bit as far as requesting funds go. But I did read the article and noticed no attention paid to one of the most important research areas directly affecting our future health and well-being today. Stem cell research. Many crucial advances were made during the past year regarding embryonic stem cell research, and the horizon continues to grow brighter and more exciting as the data flows in. I know this may be a hot political button, but the idea of cutting federal funding for this area of research greatly depresses me when I think of all the benefits that can be gained.

Re:Maybe it's too much to ask... (1)

ricky-road-flats (770129) | more than 8 years ago | (#14714390)

I'd like to know more about the science. I don't really if an individual poster likes or dislikes Bush.

Sorry, unless this is your first visit to /., what the hell did you expect? A solid record for ignoring, delaying, banning and otherwise disrespecting science, on top of the dangerous idiocy of his foreign policies, makes for a lot of anger when this dickhead's mentioned.

You want to read about the awards and the science? Try to RTFA and maybe hit a science site - or maybe the one that is connected to the awards [nationalmedals.org] .

Inevitable Followup (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14713503)

Perhaps Mr. Bush is just jealous of the news attention that the media has given Vice-President Cheney and his recent give-away of metal. (signal: collective groan).

Blasphemy! (4, Funny)

garrett714 (841216) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713505)

From TFA: "--Robert N. Clayton, The University of Chicago, for his contributions to geochemistry and cosmochemistry that provided insight into the evolution of the solar system."

Blasphemy! God created the heavens in six days, it was intelligently designed (TM) from the start! Blasphemy!

Re:Blasphemy! (1)

garrett714 (841216) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713928)

Why did this get modded flamebait? I wasn't trying to start a flame war. I was simply presenting the very same view that many people in this country believe. Many people believe that the heavens and everything were created by God in six days; many people don't believe in evolution, they choose to believe in intelligent design. While my take on the whole matter was an attempt at dry humor, I hardly think it should have been modded flamebait. Either we have Gov't trolls modding on /. or something is seriously wrong here.

Re:Blasphemy! (1)

amliebsch (724858) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713991)

Don't act so obtuse. It's flamebait because it's a topic that starts flamewars, and it is irrelevant to the TFA.

Hooked On Phonics (0, Troll)

maggard (5579) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713526)

So were all of the big words in his cue cards spelled out phonetically?

How many did still get wrong?

Re:Hooked On Phonics (1)

guruevi (827432) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713564)

Bush (and 90% of the rest of the American population) doesn't know how to speak or read phonetics you insensitive clod.

The other 10% read Slashdot ;-)

Re:Hooked On Phonics (1)

BJH (11355) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713591)

To be fair, he did say "phonics" in the title, not IPA...

Something like "Weed laik too preezent the aword foa jenettikally enjeneeyad myuutant weet to..."

Re:Hooked On Phonics (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14713616)

"How many did still get wrong?"

At least make a half-hearted attempt at making sure your post is grammatically correct if you're going to make a joke like this...

A little late? (1)

flooey (695860) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713540)

"The spirit of discovery is one of our national strengths," Bush said before handing out the 2004 National Medals of Science and Technology in the White House's East Room.
Did they forget or something?

These are actually... (4, Insightful)

This is outrageous! (745631) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713566)

... the 2004 medals of science [nsf.gov] . Why do the 2004 medals get announced by the President in November 2005, and presented in 2006? Is this a tradition, or a reflection of current priorities...?

Re:These are actually... (1)

nachtkap (951646) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713609)

well his advisor probably told him that it would be a good idea to know for what the awards were being presented. with all that evil science in the write ups he probaly needed this long to have a faint idea why and to who he was presenting the awards.....

Re:These are actually... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14713705)

with all that evil science in the write ups

Do you care to tell us exactly when Bush called science evil? Otherwise keep your political spin (and outright lies) to yourself.

No wonder slashdot is getting less activity by the day; you can't post a fucking thing without some asshole turning it into a political debate. Frankly it's getting old. What's worse is the assholes who mod shit up and down not based on facts but rather political ideology. Those fucktards are just as dogmatic as the church they're against under the claims that they don't have an open mind. How ironic!

Re:These are actually... (1)

patio11 (857072) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713818)

Yes, its a long-running tradition that the awards lag by at least part of a year (2003 in March 2004, 2002 in October 2003, etc). You can verify this with this database [nsf.gov] -- the tradition of awards being physically handed out in the year after the citation has been standard practice since at least JFK [nsf.gov] .

Re:These are actually... (3, Informative)

This is outrageous! (745631) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713897)

Thanks for the reference, but I don't think it shows what you say it does...:

1986 awards presented on Mar 12, 1986 [nsf.gov]
1987 awards presented on Jun 25, 1987 [nsf.gov]
1988 awards presented on Jul 15, 1988 [nsf.gov]
1989 awards presented on Oct 18, 1989 [nsf.gov]
1990 awards presented on Nov 13, 1990 [nsf.gov]
1991 awards presented on Sep 16, 1991 [nsf.gov]
1992 awards presented on Jun 23, 1992 [nsf.gov]
1993 awards presented on Sep 30, 1993 [nsf.gov]
1994 awards presented on Dec 19, 1994 [nsf.gov]
1995 awards presented on Oct 18, 1995 [nsf.gov]
1996 awards presented on Jul 26, 1996 [nsf.gov]
1997 awards presented on Dec 17, 1997 [nsf.gov]
1998 awards presented on Apr 27, 1999 [nsf.gov]
1999 awards presented on Mar 14, 2000 [nsf.gov]
2000 awards presented on Dec 1, 2000 [nsf.gov]
2001 awards presented on Jun 12, 2002 [nsf.gov]
2002 awards presented on Nov 6, 2003 [nsf.gov]
2003 awards presented on Mar 14, 2005 [nsf.gov]
2004 awards presented on Feb 13, 2006

Re:These are actually... (2, Informative)

satcomdaddy1 (938185) | more than 8 years ago | (#14714473)

and yet, from The NSF, [nsf.gov] and I quoth:
The award recipients for 2005 have not yet been named.

Assuming the site to lag behing the news for a day or so, it seems the awardees were just recently named!
I think we can all agree the President has more pressing matters to attend to than spending his time beatin' up the NSF for not producing those names.


Had some great flamebait attached to the end of this, but decided to let it go.

Inappropriate Behavior. (1, Troll)

SilentOneNCW (943611) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713582)

Quite frankly, it's almost inappropriate. Almost insulting. Can you imagine standing up there, recieving a medal from a man you are quite sure is almost religious (ha... ha!) in his dismissal and disrespect for science and technology? From a president that has cut funding for the very same science and education that he is now rewarding? I think that an empty, hollow, false recognition is hardly better than no recognition at all. I can only hope that the very same group he is making nice to now will remember his prior deeds against them, and not be blown over with false gratitude, a mockery, a mask that attempts to obscure his previous words and actions.

Re:Inappropriate Behavior. (2, Insightful)

TubeSteak (669689) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713702)

Yea, I kinda agree with what you said... BUT, are you going to be that guy who blows off the President?

Getting a Presidential award looks good for you, for the people you work for, and the people they work for.

Taking a 'principled' stand and deciding to decline the honor might be a quick way to lose your job and any funding that goes with it.

Science has its share of politics too.

Re:Inappropriate Behavior. (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14713781)

Actually, it would have been really nice to see some of the people being given the awards decline them to show that the scientific community is not to be taken for granted, censored, or strangled by religious doctrine.

You know, just to give Bush a good shove in the right direction and remind him that he needs science, not the other way around.

Re:Inappropriate Behavior. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14713837)

You know, just to give Bush a good shove in the right direction and remind him that he needs science, not the other way around.

Remember you felt that way the day the Muslims cut off your head for your faith in science.

Re:Inappropriate Behavior. (1)

DSP_Geek (532090) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713956)

Re:Inappropriate Behavior. (1)

TubeSteak (669689) | more than 8 years ago | (#14714000)

you did read that link didn't you?

The guy was/is in the Dominican Republic with his family.

That entire article is one big example of what I was saying. Everyone and their cousing is saying "of course I would go"

Re:Inappropriate Behavior. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14713917)

Quite frankly, it's almost inappropriate. Almost insulting.

Not really much different than getting a medal for military honors from Clinton, eh?

elevation (0, Troll)

nachtkap (951646) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713588)

i wonder why he didnt persent a award to himself. for elevating "lying to the american pepole" to a sience.... hmmm maybe he figured out that not elevating himself would do more to elevate him than elevating himself ;)

Golden Aren'tcha? (2, Insightful)

Nethead (1563) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713597)

"...helped feed millions around the world."

So Ray Kroc got one?

Congrats to George Lucas (2, Informative)

Sundroid (777083) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713614)

Glad to hear that Industrial Light and Magic, a movie special effects company founded by George Lucas, is one of the recipients of this award. Obviously this piece of news was drowned out by the sound of one certain shotgun blast in Texas.

A trivia about ILM -- John Lasseter (director of Toy Story) worked for ILM in the early 1980s as a computer animator. The computer graphics department, now known as Pixar, was eventually sold to Steve Jobs, which went on to create the first CG animated feature with Toy Story. (source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_Light_and_ Magic [wikipedia.org] )

Re:Congrats to George Lucas (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14713727)

A trivia about ILM [...]

A pedantic (some might say trivial) correction: The singular of trivia is trivium.

No climatologists? (3, Insightful)

Agelmar (205181) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713632)

Am I the only one who finds it odd that there are no climatologists on the list? There has been a lot of research in the area lately, with many significant results. Or perhaps that's the problem...

Meanwhile... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14713653)

Those scientist who in worked on global warming are being toruted in Guantanamo

Good (4, Funny)

tsotha (720379) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713660)

I hope these medals were presented on the basis of some sort of reasonable criteria. Hopefully these awards will be what the Nobel prizes used to be before they became a political joke.

Re:Good (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14713720)

Norman Bourlag won the Nobel Peace Prize [nobelprize.org] in 1970 for fathering the "Green Revolution". Some estimate that his work may have saved over a billion lives [globalenvision.org] .

MOD PARENT UP (1)

afaik_ianal (918433) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713739)

+1, Funny

Re:Good (2, Interesting)

Daniel Dvorkin (106857) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713756)

... Nobel prizes used to be before they became a political joke

What's your basis for this claim?

Re:Good (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14714071)

Umm. They're American!! How can they be anything but a joke?

In case it has escaped your attention, the Nobel prizes are international.

Cool! My boss picked up one of those medals. (1)

Expert Determination (950523) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713709)

So he wasn't lying to us after all at our last departmental meeting.

besides the controversies (1)

breadboy21 (856238) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713713)

other than global warming and evolution, what's to dislike about Bush's approach to science? Those arn't the pillars of modern science anyway, and although I'm sure many of you disagree with the President on a number of fronts he isn't exactly anti-science. Again, if you can get past evolution/global warming (which are no where near as important as this forum would lead you to believe) thing, there isn't a whole lot to critize.

Re:besides the controversies (1, Insightful)

dido (9125) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713844)

The main problem with the Bush II administration and science is that it has been cherry-picking scientific results to suit its political agendas. They seem to be a bunch of people hell-bent on denying reality even as it is staring them in the face. The true pillar, the true foundation stone of science is the search for truth by observation of the universe. Denying that makes them more anti-science than anything. They're just like a bunch of dishonest scientists who fake experimental data just so they can publish papers that agree with their own hypotheses, no matter that that their hypotheses are totally contradicted by the true experimental data. It is in global warming and evolution that they've decided that their own pet hypotheses (erm... their ideology) must trump all experimental data today, but who's to say they won't do the same for other inconvenient discoveries in the future? The Soviet Union made that same mistake with Lysenkoism [wikipedia.org] in the past, with disastrous results. Looks like you guys are all set up to walk in those same footprints if you really believe that Bush and his troop are not really so anti-science, and/or are too bovinely complacent to care.

Re:besides the controversies (1)

mahmud (254877) | more than 8 years ago | (#14714718)

Hey! Give the parent some mode points, it's by no means a troll, at worst it's just view that some people disagree with!

Finer grained filtering (1, Insightful)

Majik Sheff (930627) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713742)

It would be nice if I could filter all articles that contained President Bush's name that were not filed under politics. Not because I'm disinterested, nor because I dislike the man, but because any article that mentions him becomes a nonstop bash-fest for the political trolls that live for such opportunities. I think the poster of this article did so simply to feed the trolls. Well eat up assholes. Oh, and don't bother with moderation, I'll save you the trouble:
-1 Offtopic. except that Bush trolling has become the topic.
-1 Overrated. this couldn't possibly be overrated because not a goddamn one of you slashbots thinks I have a point.
-1 Troll. pot; kettle; black
-1 Redundant. possibly, but since anyone else who's said this has also been modded into oblivion, I'll throw mine out there for a chance at visibility.

Re:Finer grained filtering (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14713801)

-1 Overrated. this couldn't possibly be overrated because not a goddamn one of you slashbots thinks I have a point.

I bet you the second a Democrat gets elected president that this mod disappears so that it can't be used as a backhanded method to censor. For now Commander Taco is only happy to let this form of trolling continue!

Re:Finer grained filtering (1)

Majik Sheff (930627) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713888)

I think it's most telling that the over/underrated mod is not listed in the reason modifier under preferences. You may have a valid point. I left out Flamebait; since the entire article is in fact flamebait. I think it's time to bulk remove articles posted by ScuttleMonkey.

National TV coverage (2, Funny)

OldManAndTheC++ (723450) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713751)

To underscore the importance of these awards, all three TV networks and CNN carried the presentation ceremony live, in prime time.

Viewers were momentarily startled by the appearance of flying pigs in the background, apparently rising out of a hole in the ground leading up from a frozen hell.

Re:National TV coverage (1)

dunkelfalke (91624) | more than 8 years ago | (#14714482)

i thought pink floyd said they won't tour again

what? (5, Funny)

sulli (195030) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713755)

no pioneers in intelligent design?

Typo (2, Funny)

Bob9113 (14996) | more than 8 years ago | (#14713813)

--Robert N. Clayton, The University of Chicago, for his contributions to geochemistry and cosmochemistry that provided insight into the evolution of the solar system.

I believe that's a typo - should read "insight into the intelligent design of the solar system."

Re:Typo (1)

Ihlosi (895663) | more than 8 years ago | (#14714319)

... and the phrase is decidedly lacking the word "theory".

The greatest man in the world (1)

YF19AVF (954375) | more than 8 years ago | (#14714194)

It is nice to see Norman E. Borlaug in this list still. This is the greatest man in the world. He has saved bilions of people through his reserch in creating new breeds of crops. SMILE YOU FUCKS

The Internet... What a beast we've created ! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14714211)

Is it just me or do the "Ads by Google" a the bottom for hair transplants seem just a bit out of place ?

WTF ?? ;)

That's so... (1)

edunbar93 (141167) | more than 8 years ago | (#14714245)

Mmmmmm. Sciencey.

Hmmm, sounds weird... (1)

asphinx (921110) | more than 8 years ago | (#14714607)

Read just this bit:

revolutionized organ transplants, led to development of global positioning systems, and helped feed millions around the world

That's something!

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