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Black Hole Birth Detected this Morning

timothy posted more than 9 years ago | from the look-out-for-space-placenta dept.

Space 337

An anonymous reader writes "SPACE.com is reporting on the first optical afterglow ever detected from a short-duration (milliseconds) Gamma-Ray Burst. The GRB signals the birth of a black hole resulting from a merger between two neutron stars. Theory had predicted the whole thing, which was all spotted this morning by NASA's Swift satellite and ground-based observatories, thanks to an automated email system that notifies astronomers worldwide."

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Upon Further Review... (5, Funny)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479615)

The Gamma ray burst was determined to emitted from a very large cigarette lighter igniting a very, very large cigarette. SETI recorded the first successfully detected extraterrestrial broadcast of a message, which they believe was "Was it good for you, too?" Bachelor and bachelorette scientists around the world are extremely puzzeled and have few clues as to what it all means.

Re:Upon Further Review... (4, Funny)

falzer (224563) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479653)

Scientists say these new findings strengthen the "big bang" theory.

Re:Upon Further Review... (-1)

Profane MuthaFucka (574406) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479871)

Don't you mean the "big knockin' the boots" theory?

Re:Upon Further Review... (2, Funny)

g-san (93038) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479668)

You can't smoke in space, silly.

Re:Upon Further Review... (5, Funny)

Nos. (179609) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479730)

Geez, they said I couldn't smoke in planes, then theatres, now restaurants. Now I can't smoke in space? This is getting out of hand!

Re:Upon Further Review... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12479971)

In space, no-one can hear you cough.

Re:Upon Further Review... (0)

FidelCatsro (861135) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479761)

You cant smoke , you cant drink and dammed if anyone can hear you scream.

email notification (3, Funny)

Eric Smith (4379) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479620)

Unfortunately the email notification didn't get to most of astronomers, because AOL's spam filter blocked the message due to the subject line "A special powful astronomical object".

It's unclear whether the newborn is a boy or a girl, but what is known is that it has no hair [wolfram.com] .

Excuse ME (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12479624)


Nothing Quantum for you to see here. Please move along in a femtosecond.

Terrible Secrect of Space? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12479627)

Grossest. Dept. Ever.

Re:Terrible Secrect of Space? (4, Funny)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479672)

Grossest. Dept. Ever.

That's what I thought when I heard about Paula Abdul on Idol... this is how burned out old stars on earth behave, they attemt to merge with younger, brighter stars. A little titillation and BAM(!) their radiating again and the envy of all their neighboring dying stars.

Re:Terrible Secrect of Space? (1)

robertjw (728654) | more than 9 years ago | (#12480131)

Sounds more like Demi Moore than Paubla Abdul to me. I hear Demi even wants a child...

Mother and baby are doing fine (4, Funny)

winkydink (650484) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479630)

Dad's a little dazed...

Automated email (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12479638)

Is there anything it can't do?

Re:Automated email (1)

glassjaw rocks (793596) | more than 9 years ago | (#12480012)

It can't send e-mail manually.

Er... (5, Informative)

Avyakata (825132) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479641)

Wasn't there another slashdot article a few weeks ago about how blackholes don't exist? I think it was talking about this report. [nature.com]

Re:Er... (3, Interesting)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479720)

Wasn't there another slashdot article a few weeks ago about how blackholes don't exist? I think it was talking about this report.

Let's rename them 'Schrödinger's holes' - They may or may not exist. Seems to fit in with a lot of the battling theories.

Our astronomy club hosted a local speaker, studying the lives of black holes, where the entire cycle was explored. Pretty cool stuff. I'll try to remember his name and find a link.

they should put these doctoral types on american gladiator and have them defend their theories!

Fate of Black Holes. (5, Informative)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479854)

Found it. Donald Coyne [ucsc.edu] of UCSC gave a talk on the Ultimate Fate of Small Black Holes. Be sure to check the Milagro link on his facutly page.

Re:Fate of Black Holes. (-1, Offtopic)

tomhudson (43916) | more than 9 years ago | (#12480049)

Of course black holes exist. All they had to do was point their telescopes towards Maureen O'Gara's head. A perfect vacuum. NOTHING exists in there - it's a gate towards an alternate reality.
I HATE MOGs

I *really* *hate* MoGs.

The WalMart down the road was selling Mini Maureen O'Gara Trolls (MoGTrolls) for 2 cents a piece. That was even less than the 5 cents a piece I paid for those damn monkeys ... so I figured "What have I got to loose?"

So I bought 250 MoGTrolls for $5.00. I mean, what's 5 buck, right? What could possibly go wrong?

I took my 250 MoGTrolls home. I have a big car. One of them insisted on driving. Its' name was Maureen O'Gara (all the MoGTrolls answer to Maureen O'Gara). It was retarded, even for a troll. In fact, now that I had them outside in the daylight, it was obvious that they were all "more than a few bricks short of a full load." I couldn't let the MoGTroll drive, so I kicked it in the head. It LIKED being kicked in the head! WTF? So I obliged it by kicking it some more. Soon, all the MoGTrolls were kicking each other and giggling like crazy, snot running down their ugly troll faces. This made it hard to drive, but we finally made it home.

I herded them into the basement. They didn't adapt well to their new environment. They stopped kicking each other, and just sulked. Then they began pulling the hair out of each other. It quickly became am ess. Oh, and nobody told me that MoGTrolls aren't toilet trained. I googled and yahoo'd for "toilet training MoGTrolls", but all that came back was "lots of luck, sucker!" and "never been done."

The novelty of having 250 MoGTrolls had worn off.

The MogTrolls got out of the basement and kept trying to use my computers, even though everyone knows that MoGTrolls can't write for shit. They kept on, though, and started posting all sorts of weird, distorted stuff. I mean REALLY bent! So my ISP cut me off. I hate MoGTrolls.

I had to find another ISP. And the damn MoGTrolls got me kicked off that one, too. I went from high-speed cable to adsl to dialup to - well, lets just say that TCP/IP over a clothesline really sux. I can only post when my neighbours are doing their laundry. I feel SO low having to steal bandwidth through their underware flapping in the breeze!

Did I mention that I hate MoGTrolls?

At least by now I knew why the MoGTrolls were so cheap - nobody would want one. All they do is sit around and make rambling random noise and emit noxious vapours, and excrete stuff that even the dogs don't want to sniff ... and dogs will eat their own puke!

I didn't know what to do - I was at wits end. So I went out to the local Home Depot and bought some muriatic acid, the stuff you use on concrete. I took one of the MoGTrolls and dipped it into the muriatic acid. The acid turned into goo. I poored some on the sidewalk outside, and it quickly melted the ice. Unfortunately, it also completely removed the top inch of concrete. The city had to replace the sidewalk. I got the bill last week. I hate MoGTrolls.

I decided to kill them all and throw them in the garbage. Do you have any idea how HARD it is to kill a MoGTroll? They're worse than cockroaches! You can drop a load of bricks on them, squish them flatter than a penny after the train's gone over it, and next morning they're back at it again, spitting, being mean, and just looking butt-ugly as usual.

So I tried to have a garage sale. I TRIED to make them look half-way decent, but MoGTrolls are like SCO stock - no amount of lipstick will make that pig look good. Not only did I not sell a single MoGTroll; the police gave me a fine for disturbing the peace. All the kids in the neighbourhood are having nightmares, and the school has to have a psychologist on staff full-time to deal with all the trauma that being exposed to a whole herd of MoGTrolls can cause in young minds. I hate MoGTrolls.

I tried to flush one down the toilet. It didn't work. It's still there. Then I had one wet gibbering MoGTroll, 1 acid-stained MoGTroll, and 248 dry MoGTrolls, and one blocked toilet. The MoGTroll won't come out of the toilet. I don't mean its stuck in it - it REFUSES to come out. I tried for over an hour to pull it out, but it likes it there. Yesterday, we had a big rainstorm and the toilet backed up, and 3 more MoGTrolls jumped in. Now I have 4 gross stinky wet MoGTrolls and 245 gross stinky dry MoGTrolls, and 1 acid-stained MoGTroll. The plumbers just laugh when I call them. I guess they hate MoGTrolls too.

I tried burying one in the back yard. That didn't work. A raccoon dug it up, and a skunk sprayed it. Well, at least now it doesn't smell as bad as the other MoGTrolls. But now I also have a date in court for burying toxic refuse. I hate MoGTrolls.

I tried burning some of them with the leaves. The neighbours accused me of burning tires. Another $300 fine. So now I have 4 wet stinky MoGTrolls, a dozen singed burnt-hair-stinky MoGTrolls, and 230-some-odd regular stinky MoGTrolls.

Now when I want some fresh air, I go to the municipal land-fill or the sewer treatment plant. Anything's better than the stench of MoGTroll.

I tried to hide them in the garbage (they LIKE playing in the garbage). Unfortunately, the garbageman caught on (one of the MoGTrolls bit him in the ankle when he lifted the bag). They can't take MoGTrolls, and since the MoGTrolls can't/won't be removed from the garbage, they had to tip their whole load into my driveway. The end result is my car is under 10 tons of coffee grinds, used diapers, sanitary napkins, and empty pizza boxes. Oh, and I got another fine from the city, for the garbage. And a bill for the doctor's visit for the garbageman. And now the garbage truck stops by every week, to MAKE DELIVERIES! I hate MoGTrolls!

I finally came up with a solution. It was expensive, but not as expensive as the bills the MoGTrolls have been running up. I put them all in FedEx boxes, marked "Windows LongHorn Upgrade Media Kit", and sent them to all the so-called "analysts" and "reporters" who have been spreading FUD against Free, Libre, and Open-Source software (FLOSS). With Bill Gates home as the return address. I figure the MoGTrolls won't slow their computer down as much as LongHorn will, so they should be grateful.

I just hope the Department of Homeland Security doesn't find out - I don't want to be labeled "The MoGTroll Terrorist."

I really, really, hate MoGTrolls.

"You've Got a Black Hole!" (4, Funny)

Esion Modnar (632431) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479644)

They had to tune down their email spam filter to let that one through...

automated email system that notifies astronomers (4, Funny)

Typingsux (65623) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479648)

See hot teen neutron stars get it on.


No credit card required click for details.

after all ... (0, Redundant)

vlad_petric (94134) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479758)

Black holes don't grow hair [wolfram.com]

Yes, I should be modded -1 sexist.

presents (2, Funny)

Umbral Blot (737704) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479652)

What kind of gifts do you get for a super massive object? You don't want to make mom and dad angry, that is for sure.

Re:presents (3, Funny)

seven of five (578993) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479985)

... just don't promise her the Moon....

The mother (4, Funny)

Timesprout (579035) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479658)

will require serious stitching or no star will want to merge with her again.

The details... (4, Funny)

Shadow Wrought (586631) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479671)

The black hole was a noningth of an inch in length and weighed about the same as a large star.

Im gonna.. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12479674)

Rip your galazy a new hole!

If you hear the bomb fall... (4, Interesting)

RobertB-DC (622190) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479680)

I read somewhere about workers at an Army ammunition plant. A newbie came on, and was being shown around his area of responsibility, when there was a loud metallic CLANG, as some object in the warehouse full of high explosives dropped to the floor. The newbie instinctively dove to the ground has his compatriots chuckled. As he stood back up, they told him, "If you hear it hit the floor, it didn't explode."

Looks like this one was a dud. Lucky much [space.com] ?

Re:If you hear the bomb fall... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12479992)

RTFM n00b!

Outstanding! (2, Funny)

east coast (590680) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479681)

I told Rosie O'Donnell not to eat that last HoHo... Looks what she's done now!

Re:Outstanding! (1)

jacen_sunstrider (797955) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479999)

I may give you the fact that she's as massive as a neutron star. However, a hoho? they're just good!

More black holes on the web: (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12479686)

at www.EbonyXXX.com

Re:More black holes on the web: (-1, Flamebait)

Deinhard (644412) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479769)

The article is about a Black Hole not a Black Ho. Sorry for the confusion.

Re:More black holes on the web: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12480052)

I thought it was funny...

What about Dr. Reinhardt? (3, Funny)

Deinhard (644412) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479687)

Too bad the Cygnus [imdb.com] wasn't there to watch!

Weak! (5, Funny)

The Woodworker (723841) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479688)

It happened 2.2 billion years ago. Slashdot really needs to try and stay current.

Re:Weak! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12479850)

How stupid are you? Geez! Slashdot is a news reposting site for discussiong, not a news site! DUH!

Re:Weak! (4, Funny)

killjoe (766577) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479929)

" It happened 2.2 billion years ago"

YOu better let the Kansas school board know about this. The universe is only about 3000 years old don't you know.

Re:Weak! (1)

astrokid (779104) | more than 9 years ago | (#12480103)

2.2 Billion years in the making, a day or two for duping.

Come on! This morning? (0, Redundant)

grumpyman (849537) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479691)

It probably happened few million years ago. It's history...

Wait a minute... (4, Funny)

dfn5 (524972) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479693)

Slashdot just told me [slashdot.org] that black hole's don't exist. I don't know what to think anymore.

Re:Wait a minute... (4, Funny)

FidelCatsro (861135) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479722)

Rimmer: But a Black Hole's a huge, compacted star! It's millions of miles wide! Why didn't you see it on the radar screen?
Holly: Well, the thing about a Black Hole, its main distinguishing feature, is it's black. And the thing about space, your basic space colour is black. So how are you supposed to see them?
Rimmer: But five of them! How can you be ambushed by five Black Holes?
Holly: Always the way, isn't it? You hang around in deep space for three million years and you don't see one. Then, all of a sudden, five all turn up at once.

Re:Wait a minute... (1)

markana (152984) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479918)

I was probably just a few specks of dust on the Swift lens....

They detected a White Hole too... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12479997)

So what is it?

Re:Wait a minute... (1)

Craig_P92669 (875776) | more than 9 years ago | (#12480018)

Holly was always like HALs young, lazy alcoholic brother that never did quite fit in anywhere.

Re:Wait a minute... (1)

FidelCatsro (861135) | more than 9 years ago | (#12480082)

that was the female Holly who said that one.

Re:Wait a minute... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12479883)

Well, they did exist 2.2 billion years ago. They don't anymore.

...But they don't exist! (0, Redundant)

bigtallmofo (695287) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479698)

It was just about a month ago that it was reported that blackholes don't exist. [slashdot.org]

I wish physicists could make up their mind.

Re:...But they don't exist! (1)

Waffle Iron (339739) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479809)

OK, so two neutron stars merged into an object that's not a technicaly a black hole, but looks and acts just like one from the outside. Same difference.

Re:...But they don't exist! (1)

Foobar of Borg (690622) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479941)

Ah, but you see, this means there are "gaps" in gravitational theory, which is why those so-called scientists can't make up their minds. All these "gravitists" in the gravitational community are just spouting nonsense and can't see through the obvious flaws in this whole "gravitation" theory (which is just a theory, after all) and are trying to cover up over mountains of contradicting evidence. So, I guess this gap in the theory just proves that gravity doesn't really exist.

[BTW, for the sarcastically impaired, :-)]

Re:...But they don't exist! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12480030)

"Of course he did, christians don't believe in gravity."

Re:...But they don't exist! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12480134)

Considering Gravity [66.102.7.104] as an emergent property [google.ca] may yield some interesting results.

Re:...But they don't exist! (3, Informative)

drxray (839725) | more than 9 years ago | (#12480140)

You're probably joking, but you got modded informative so:

From your link "according to a physicist"... There is a general consensus that black holes with singularities exist, but the universe doesn't give a damn about our consensual opinion - the Earth would be flat otherwise.

This is how science works, people come up with testable ideas which are proven right or wrong. No-one is arguing that super-dense, intrinsically dark objects don't exist, we have plenty of evidence that they do. Infinitely dense singularities, well, maybe not - if they exist as we predict they're inside an event horizon and therefore unobservable so actually directly verifying their existance is always going to be impossible... all we can do is come up with odd ideas like dark energy stars which might bounce matter out and see if we can observe that happening.

automated email (-1, Flamebait)

malus (6786) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479699)

and i bet the automated email system runs on Linux! woohoo. More linux!

ugh.

God (-1, Offtopic)

rgf71 (448062) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479710)

It's just god doing goatse.cx

Happy Birthday! (4, Funny)

nizo (81281) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479712)

I almost put up a big "Happy Birthday you Big Black Hole" banner at work as a joke, but luckily I found out beforehand that one of my co-workers has a birthday today. I am guessing that banner wouldn't have gone over too well with him.

Re:Happy Birthday! (4, Funny)

Rosco P. Coltrane (209368) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479786)

I almost put up a big "Happy Birthday you Big Black Hole" banner at work as a joke, but luckily I found out beforehand that one of my co-workers has a birthday today. I am guessing that banner wouldn't have gone over too well with him.

Especially if he also happens to be a large gay afro-american...

Space the final Frontier (0, Offtopic)

Boogiesbunny (881293) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479726)

"Mr. Scott I need your warp 8 speed now"...."Captain I'm giving you all that I can muster"

Re:Space the final Frontier (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12479815)

I wish there was an imposed period of, say, a hundred thousand new subscriptions, before Slashdot lets newcomers post. This is just pathetic...

Re:Space the final Frontier (1)

Boogiesbunny (881293) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479896)

It is whole lot easier to post as the Anonymous Coward though. Some of stories are not worthy of serious thought..case in point. Not a newcomer but was tired being an AC.

Detected how? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12479737)

How did a gamma ray burst escape the black hole? Sounds contradictory to me.

I call bullshit! Prove me wrong.

Re:Detected how? (3, Insightful)

SirTalon42 (751509) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479818)

Poor wording. It didn't come from inside the event horizon, but probably right outside it, or before an event horizon was created it was emitted.

IANAP; though, I do have a strong intrest in it.

Re:Detected how? (1)

cecille (583022) | more than 9 years ago | (#12480004)

I am not a physicist, but from what I understand of it (which may not be a lot), particle pairs (matter particle and an anti-matter particle) are able to appear together in space. I'm a little fuzzy on this part because it seems counter-intuitive to me, but apparantly this does not violate the laws of conservation of energy because the matter is generated along with the anti-matter, which creates a balance.

Usually, just after the creation, the matter hits the anti-matter and they disappear. But at the event horizon of a black hole, it is possible for one of the particles to get sucked in, meaning that its partner is left visible. This is what creates the emissions from black holes, which actually makes them not so black at all, but visible to physicists so they can study them.

Someone correct me if I'm way off base with this.

Re:Detected how? (4, Informative)

Detritus (11846) | more than 9 years ago | (#12480136)

I believe you are describing Hawking radiation [ucr.edu] .

From what I've read, you have a better chance of detecting a black hole by looking for the effects of its gravitational field on light that passes nearby. It should warp the apparent positions of stars.

The whole hole? (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12479760)

Theory had predicted the whole thing

Didn't you mean "theory had predicted the hole thing" ?

In other news... (2)

Shin Chan (682232) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479764)

... This years intergalactic golf competition has started with a complete revamp of the course including a new hole deep into the galaxy! This looks like a promising season to me, so everyone, get your space-clubs out and try not to hit your little ball into that newly formed gas cloud! Oh, and, we appologize 2.2 billion year delay of "this" years golf magazine from outer space.

Afterglow afterbirth (1)

digitaldc (879047) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479773)

"A fraction of a second before contact, the lower mass neutron star is disrupted and forms a neutrino driven accretion disk around the higher mass neutron star," Sigurdsson told SPACE.com. "It implodes under the weight and forms a maximally spinning low-mass black hole."
Man, this sounds like a big bang going on here.

PUSH!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12479807)

You should have heard the mother scream.

Could've been worst... (1)

creimer (824291) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479811)

Instead of a black hole being created, it could've been a free-falling whale. Just a bunch of kids showing off their hot rods [bbc.co.uk] with an Infinite Probability Drive.

Those impetuous scientists! (5, Funny)

kclittle (625128) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479820)

The burst has been named GRB050509b

I mean, really! How droll, how clever...

Re:Those impetuous scientists! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12480027)

I think it's a jerky name. Still, it could be worse. I once knew burst whose name was 2Q4B. Poor sucker!

Re:Those impetuous scientists! (1)

Tenebrious1 (530949) | more than 9 years ago | (#12480070)

The burst has been named GRB050509b I mean, really! How droll, how clever...

Speaking of the name, why "b"? Did they discover another black hole earlier in the day and name that GRB050509a?

umm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12479825)

Don't Panic!?

And from now on... (2, Funny)

Foobar of Borg (690622) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479830)

Mama neutron star will be telling the Black Hole how many hours she was in labor for the rest of her life...

LA-LA-LA-LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU (0, Flamebait)

revscat (35618) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479831)

Great. More evidence for the fundamentalist Republicans to loudly ignore. "The universe isn't that old. God just put black holes in place to test our faith. Black holes are really a tool of Satan." They're in charge, though. Maybe they can change the definition of "black hole" to something more forgiving to creationism.

Have you READ any of the "Left Behind" series? I only *wish* there weren't people out there like that. Holy moly.

Re:LA-LA-LA-LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12479928)

Wow, hate much?

Re:LA-LA-LA-LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU (0, Offtopic)

Shadow Wrought (586631) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479949)

If you didn't catch last night's Simpson's, you really should. Homer gets caught up in the "Left Below" craze. Pretty sharp satire.

Re:LA-LA-LA-LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU (2, Insightful)

Detritus (11846) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479995)

I wouldn't give the so-called rational scientists too much credit either. They "knew" that the cosmos was perfect and unchanging, in spite of evidence to the contrary. All human beings have prejudices and irrational ideas.

Re:LA-LA-LA-LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU (4, Insightful)

revscat (35618) | more than 9 years ago | (#12480142)

They "knew" that the cosmos was perfect and unchanging, in spite of evidence to the contrary.

The main difference being, of course, was once the evidence became irrefutable that such notions were incorrect, scientists changed the theories to fit the data. Religions have a tendency to kill people when challenged.

Re:LA-LA-LA-LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU (4, Funny)

sulli (195030) | more than 9 years ago | (#12480106)

I only *wish* there weren't people out there like that. Holy moly.

God put them on earth to test you.

Via evolution, of course.

Hypernovas (1)

StarWreck (695075) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479861)

I thought gamma ray bursts and the resulting creation of a black hole were the result of Hyper-Novas [chron.com] not from the merger of two neutron stars.

Re:Hypernovas (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12479891)

There are different types and different source of gamma ray bursts. Hypernovas, neutron star mergers, black hole mergers, etc.

Terminology, people! (4, Interesting)

WormholeFiend (674934) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479862)

Shouldn't this be more appropriately described as a black hole being ripped, rather than being born?

Re:Terminology, people! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12480031)

Don't use the R word, the RIAA might hear it.

Re:Terminology, people! (1)

lobsterGun (415085) | more than 9 years ago | (#12480116)

We just tore the universe a new time hole!

Suprise Suprise (5, Insightful)

weavermatic (868696) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479866)

So far these have been the least intelligent responses to scientific matter I believe I have ever see on slashdot. If this were anything related to YRO, linux or windows the people would be busting out certifications & degrees in bunches, but the recorded creation of a blackhole, all we get is poorly constructed sexual innuendo. Fantastic.

Re:Suprise Suprise "Left Behind" (1)

homerito (591887) | more than 9 years ago | (#12480090)

You forgot to mention the "Left Behind" series....

It's stuff like this (4, Insightful)

lheal (86013) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479893)

that makes makes me glad I'm not an astronomer.

A Gamma-ray burst lasting less than a second from 2.2 billion light years away, followed by an X-ray afterglow (for a few seconds).

Probably a black hole.

Or maybe the civil war on Zebulon III finally escalated to gamma-ray weapons.

But what funding agency would believe that?

Finally! Illudium Q-1 to Q-35, nothing... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12479907)

Illudium Q-36: Kaboom!

Marvin

God divided by zero (2, Funny)

drewzhrodague (606182) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479908)

This is nothing new, God was just dividing by zero!

sorry about that (3, Funny)

voudras (105736) | more than 9 years ago | (#12479965)

must have been the microwave burritos

Not really a neutron star (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12479977)

Actually, it was all the extra apostrophes people put in ITS and make plurals with that end up at the end of the universe. They just exceeded the Chandrasekhar limit for apostrophes and imploded this morning.

Baby black hole? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12479990)

Hope it doesn't start crying in the night!.
Wait, nothing can left the bh, so I will not be able to hear it!
I want one to put in my baby mouth!

I've Wondered... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12480010)

Why is it that in the last 50 years or so seemingly 90% of discoveries in the extreme micro and macro world happen only after someone predicts them?

It has all the earmarks of "We make this sh*t up, then go looking for it." And God says, "Well, if that's what you want - then here it is!"

Re:I've Wondered... (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12480133)

Why is it that in the last 50 years or so seemingly 90% of people who don't understand jack shit about the world think they know better than the people who do?


It has all the earmarks of "We don't understand this sh*t, so we think no one else does, so we think god did it". And the rest of the illiterate rabble thinks the same and says "Well that SOUNDS right, let's be skeptical about the very science that lets us use computers in the first place!"

Does this constitute Proof of Black Holes? (1)

sd.fhasldff (833645) | more than 9 years ago | (#12480042)

C.f. this Slashdot story [slashdot.org] from about a month ago where a phycisist at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory claims that 'it's a near certainty that black holes don't exist.' Time to eat crow or do his "dark energy stars" exhibit the same behavior as black holes?

How bright was the burst? (1)

Ignorant Aardvark (632408) | more than 9 years ago | (#12480075)

I haven't found the answer in any articles yet so I'm wondering if anyone here knows - how bright was the burst? Magnitude or photon flux and wavelength is fine - I'm just wondering how bright this thing was to be seen 2.2 billion lt-yr away!

Starting to feel like the universe is.. (2, Interesting)

Alzheimers (467217) | more than 9 years ago | (#12480109)

Great. Now it really is starting to feel like the universe is just one big version of Conway's Game of Life? [wikipedia.org]

And remember what they say... (3, Funny)

Chriscypher (409959) | more than 9 years ago | (#12480120)

Whenever a black hole is born
a sith lord gets his wings
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