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X Prize Competition Gets New Sponsor, Amended Name

simoniker posted more than 10 years ago | from the kerching dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "The X Prize Foundation today announced that entrepreneurs Anousheh Ansari and Amir Ansari have made a multi-million dollar contribution to the X Prize Foundation. As a result, the X Prize Competition is being renamed to the Ansari X Prize Competition." However, the X Prize rules stay the same: "The ANSARI X PRIZE will award $10 million to the first private organization to build and fly a ship that can carry three passengers 100 km (62 miles) into space, return safely to Earth and repeat the launch with the same ship within two weeks. Both flights must be completed by January 1st, 2005."

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Obvious Question (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9069589)

Who the hell is Ansari? And how do you spell it?

Re:Obvious Question (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9069606)

Oh (replying to myself), maybe next time i should RTFA.

Re:Obvious Question (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9069636)

maybe next time i should RTFA.

Um, this is /., no one RTFAs. *wink*

Re:Obvious Question (0, Offtopic)

jlaxson (580785) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069611)

how do you spell it

Ansari?

Re:Obvious Question (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9069628)

No, it is spelled "it".

*rimshot*

Wow (5, Insightful)

TheKidWho (705796) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069591)

What a great way to buy one's name into the pages of history.

Re:Wow (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9069618)

Wanna cyber? I've got my robe and wizard hat.

Re:Wow (4, Funny)

glean (609540) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069763)

That is exactly what I was thinking. They have no skills, (AFAIK), in this matter, take a competition that seemed of pure intent (unbranded), throw some money at it, and there it is - They are famous for nothing.
You can get your name put on anything for the right price anymore.

I just can't wait for the new Maxwell House Instant Shuttle from NASA.

Re:Wow (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9069905)

the new Maxwell House Instant Shuttle

Good to the last drop?

Re:Wow (4, Insightful)

AJWM (19027) | more than 10 years ago | (#9070026)

Famous for nothing? Hardly -- the prize itself has been a big incentive to the various candidate groups, and the money has to come from somewhere.

That was the idea behind the prize in the first place, but no big donor stepped forward early -- hence the "X" prize because there was no name, yet, to attach to it. The intention was always to name it after whoever stepped up with the prize money.

Read your aviation (and other technology) history, you'll see lots of progress due to (named) prizes offered by folks with no skills but how to make (or inherit) money.

I just can't wait for the new Maxwell House Instant Shuttle from NASA.

Me neither, although preferably not from NASA. And I think FedEx or American Airlines might be more likely logos.

Reward Change? (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9069594)

Did the reward get noticeably larger?

X Prize? (1, Funny)

Metallic Matty (579124) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069597)

You mean, they're changing the name of the porn giveaway? Those bastards.

*blank stare*

Ooooohhhh...

Is the ship more important... (5, Funny)

rd4tech (711615) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069598)

The ANSARI X PRIZE will award $10 million to the first private organization to build and fly a ship that can carry three passengers 100 km (62 miles) into space, return safely to Earth and repeat the launch with the same ship within two weeks

What about the passengers? Or they really do care only about the ship :)

Re:Is the ship more important... (4, Informative)

LupusUF (512364) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069711)

"5. The crew must return to the Earth's surface from both flights in good health as reasonably defined and judged by the X PRIZE Review Board. The flight vehicle must return from both flights substantially intact, as defined by and in the sole judgment of the X PRIZE Review Board, such that the vehicle is reusable."

Rule number 5 :)

I guess they don't put in on the press release since it points out that people might not come back in good health...but the full rules don't let dead people win.

Money talks... (5, Funny)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069599)

Sponsors get naming rights on just about everything these days, so it's not surprising the X-Prize wasn't immune... next thing you know somebody's going to buy the rights to put ads on baseball bases.

Re:Money talks... (1)

rd4tech (711615) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069657)

MS SCO ... :))

Mods - get the whole joke? (5, Informative)

Ieshan (409693) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069704)

This was an obvious joke, but I'm not sure if moderators really get it-

Ads really are going on baseball bases. Spiderman 2 has bought the rights [cnn.com] to put some logos on baseball bases in the next few weeks.

Next thing you know, corporate sponsors will be buying insightful or funny slashdot posts.

THIS POST BROUGHT TO YOU BY MCDONALDS [mcdonalds.com] . WE'RE LOVIN' IT.

Re:Mods - get the whole joke? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9069997)

MRF, an Indian rubber and tyre company, started an entire sporting goods manufacture operation simply to get around ICC rules that the only logos that could occur on cricket bats were that of the bat manufacturer. That way Sachin Tendulkar can play with a bat with MRF written on it in big letters.

I look forward to seeing the "Spiderman 2 Bat and Base Corporation" starting soon ...

Re:Mods - get the whole joke? (1)

vericgar (627150) | more than 10 years ago | (#9070008)

Get this... today at work I got mail from California. The postmark consists of Shrek and donkey and the text "Hello from Far Far Away" (or something like that).

Not even the US Postal Service is immune from advertisement... wait, don't a portion of my tax dollars help pay for the Postal Service?

Re:Mods - get the whole joke? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9070017)

No, the postal service actually makes money (thanks to advertising bulk mail).

Re:Money talks... (1)

glean (609540) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069785)

Yeah, pretty soon it will look like a team of NASCAR drivers out on the field.

Re:Money talks... (1)

Saeed al-Sahaf (665390) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069812)

Next thing you know, Slashdot, the bastion of rational and unbiased news for nerds will accept ads!

Re:Money talks... (1)

maw (25860) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069970)

I've often wondered which will be the first country to officially emblazon its flag with a corporate logo. I've also wondered which corporation it would be and how much it would cost.

I predict Australia for the first, McDonald's for the second, and have no idea about the third.

Re:Money talks... (1)

Tiro (19535) | more than 10 years ago | (#9070076)

. . . somebody's going to buy the rights to put ads on baseball bases.
Thankfully, in some games [well, soccer specifically] this is against the rules. It is nice to watch a game play out on an uncluttered surface.

FIFA bans advertisements of any kind in the field of play or on the goals; even logos for the tournament or league never appear on the field.

Brand names printed on the balls and the uniforms are not subject to this ban, of course.

Increase the prize money and extend the date (5, Interesting)

erick99 (743982) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069602)

This has been an extremely exciting contest, yet, I don't think that any of the competitors are going to be able meet the requirements to claim the prize:

The ANSARI X PRIZE will award $10 million to the first private organization to build and fly a ship that can carry three passengers 100 km (62 miles) into space, return safely to Earth and repeat the launch with the same ship within two weeks. Both flights must be completed by January 1st, 2005

I hope they extend the date and I also hope the prize money goes up. I think the major entrants have all spent more than $10,000.000 as it is. Still, I don't think they are doing it primarily for the money anyway.

Happy Trails!

Erick

Re:Increase the prize money and extend the date (4, Insightful)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069629)

I hope they extend the date and I also hope the prize money goes up. I think the major entrants have all spent more than $10,000.000 as it is. Still, I don't think they are doing it primarily for the money anyway.

Most are doing it for the money, but just not soley the X-Prize money. Afterall, if a team ends up finishing late or beaten by another team finishing before them... they'll still have a working reusable orbital spacecraft. That's gotta be useful for something.

Re:Increase the prize money and extend the date (4, Funny)

Pidder (736678) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069682)

Afterall, if a team ends up finishing late or beaten by another team finishing before them... they'll still have a working reusable orbital spacecraft. That's gotta be useful for something.

Yes definitely. I'm going to use mine to escape earth when the RIAA cracks down on me and travel to one of those rogue travel outposts they have in the movies... or something.

Re:Increase the prize money and extend the date (1)

0racle (667029) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069794)

Be careful if you take a trip to Mos Eisley, its nothing but a wretched hive of scum and villainy. Seem to be somewhat lax on laws though.

Going to space to escape the RIAA ... (4, Interesting)

bezuwork's friend (589226) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069842)

I'm going to use mine to escape earth when the RIAA cracks down on me ...

Hey! In space, copyright laws don't apply (yet). You can set up a rogue state for file traders.

History is bound to repeat itself. Apparently, many of the Europeans who came to the US way back when did so to escape opressive taxes. Of course, others did it for wealth or land. Who knows, if cheap affordable spaceflight becomes a reality, the chance to create a new state from scratch will be upon us.

However, the *IAA are probably ahead of you, or will do their best to be. I had Entertainment Law this semester (had the final today) - we learned that one of the record company executives saw a shot of astronauts in space with music playing. Apparently it was MCI. Well, believe it or not, while artist contracts previously required assignment of all rights for the whole Earth, now they say for the Universe. (Can't have artists suing and reclaiming that lucrative interplanetary market!)

Re:Increase the prize money and extend the date (4, Informative)

Docrates (148350) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069932)

SUB-Orbital!. Getting into orbit requires an amount of speed and power that is waaaay beyond what the X-Prize entrants can currently achieve.

I mean, sure, once they start running a profitable business taking people up to space, Zero G for seconds to a few minutes, and then down real fast, then they can start working on the exponentially harder orbital flights, which will be even more profitable with business applications as well as pure fun.

Expiration date (2, Interesting)

RotJ (771744) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069604)

What happens after January 1, 2005? Do they get to keep all that sweet cash?

Re:Expiration date (1)

rms_nz (196697) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069691)

They probably have to finish it by January 1, 2005 so that Microsoft can buy the winning design and show that Longhorn can even power spacecraft :)

Re:Expiration date (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9069826)

I don't know about Longhorn powering a spacecraft. However, considering the processor(s) required to run it, the steam generated by the water cooling system may just provide enough thrust to get a server into orbit. Provided of course that you could find a long enough extension cord to reach the dedicated nuclear power plant.

Re:Expiration date (1)

Jozer99 (693146) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069717)

It all goes to me, mwahahahahahahaha!!!

Wow, interesting. (4, Funny)

LordK3nn3th (715352) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069605)

I wonder how test flights would go. Someone tricking their little brother to "step in the SPACESHIP!"

especially the Atheist faith (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9069621)

"Never insult religion on Slashdot. You will be modded down for "Troll" no matter how factual your post is."

especially if you mock the Atheist faith.

Re:especially the Atheist faith (1)

spacecowboy420 (450426) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069830)

the Atheist faith

Isn't that an oxymoron?

Re:especially the Atheist faith (1)

pavon (30274) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069900)


the Atheist faith

Isn't that an oxymoron?


No it isn't. "the Agnostic faith" would be an oxymoron. But because there is no proof of the existance or non-existance of God, then asserting one way or the other is not a valid fact, theory, or hypothesis of science, but instead is an opinion or belief. Hence Atheism is a belief system based on faith.

Re:especially the Atheist faith (0, Offtopic)

spacecowboy420 (450426) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069984)

Ok, I buy your point on Atheist faith, but I think the same logic applies to both terms although the dictionary supports both of our assertions:

agnostic ( P ) Pronunciation Key (g-nstk)
n

1.
1. One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God.
2. One who is skeptical about the existence of God but does not profess true atheism.
2. One who is doubtful or noncommittal about something.

*A believer is someone who has faith.
*Noncommittal is ambiguos and supports your oxymoron theory

- ..meh *shrugs*

Re:especially the Atheist faith (2, Insightful)

LordK3nn3th (715352) | more than 10 years ago | (#9070071)

And not believing in bigfoot is a position based on faith, I'm sure. :/

(Most) Atheists don't maintain there can't be a god. They maintain that, due to the nature of the claim and lacking of evidence, one most likely does not exist.

Re:Wow, interesting. (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9069627)

Why don't you look [scaled.com] for yourself?

What kind of passengers? (5, Funny)

rms_nz (196697) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069615)

fly a ship that can carry three passengers

I notice it doesn't say what kind of passengers - wonder if mice are acceptable?

Re:What kind of passengers? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9069647)

Yes, it does [xprize.org] .

"The flight vehicle must be built with the capacity (weight and volume) to carry a minimum of 3 adults of height 188 cm (6 feet 2 inches) and weight 90 kg (198 pounds) each. Three people of this size or larger must be able to enter, occupy, and be fastened into the flight vehicle on Earth's surface prior to take-off, and equivalent ballast must be carried in-flight if the number of persons on-board during flight is less than 3 persons."

Insensitive clods! (1, Insightful)

AtariAmarok (451306) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069669)

"to carry a minimum of 3 adults of height 188 cm (6 feet 2 inches)"

Dwarfs and midgets have been barred from the Final Frontier. I guess it is back to the mines to look for precious precious mithril.... Oh, and Mini-Me, stop humping the laser!

Re:Insensitive clods! (1)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069698)

Dwarfs and midgets have been barred from the Final Frontier. I guess it is back to the mines to look for precious precious mithril.... Oh, and Mini-Me, stop humping the laser!

Nah, they can fly on the X-Prize ships after they've finished going for the prize. It's the giant NBA players of the future who are being barred by such an oversight.

Re:What kind of passengers? (2, Funny)

rd4tech (711615) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069730)

expendable? Just kidding...

Re:What kind of passengers? (1)

jsweval (693114) | more than 10 years ago | (#9070064)

It never says humans... you could just get some rats from a New York sewer to fill the height and weight requirements!

Re:What kind of passengers? (2, Interesting)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069680)

The rules are specific that it "can" carry three passengers, but doesn't have actually do. There only needs to be one live human on board.

However, in order to qualify for the X-Prize money, the space ship must be built with enough space for three people, and must also carry enough ballast weight to make up for the fact that they have less than three people on board.

You can read the complete rules [xprize.com] for the details.

Re:What kind of passengers? (1)

werdnapk (706357) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069692)

Are they going to test their rockets with eggs as passengers first? :)

Cats (2, Funny)

antic (29198) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069771)

Cats might be able to survive the fall to Earth? Heh. I'll do some tests and get back to you.*

*JK! I love my cat. He could probably leap up into space. I'm not going to do any tests.

Re:What kind of passengers? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9069871)

Mice, being pan-dimensional beings do not require a ship for space travel.

Let the marketing drones call it what they want. (5, Insightful)

Scrameustache (459504) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069617)


I'll just keep calling it "the X prize" until there is more than one.

Fine then. (2, Funny)

raehl (609729) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069850)

I'm proud to announce the Raehl X Prize. First person to drink a gallon of milk in an hour gets 10 bucks.

Re:Let the marketing drones call it what they want (4, Funny)

Geoffreyerffoeg (729040) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069915)

Money for anyone who can once and for all get my X Window configuration files working.

There, now there's another X prize.

Re:Let the marketing drones call it what they want (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9069945)

The fatal disease FreeBSD is now facing is loss of marketshare. Week after week FreeBSD keeps slipping lower in the marketshare surveys. There is only one way to interpret these results: FreeBSD is dying. It is dying the death of a thousand cuts. Loss of marketshare means loss of ISV support. Loss of ISV support means loss of marketshare. And so it goes, into a downward spiral. Without marketshare, without ISV support, there can be only one outcome: OS extinction. This is the path on which FreeBSD is headed.

Fact: *BSD is dying

Is that... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9069625)

...Like Malcolm X?

Following the money (0, Troll)

ObviousGuy (578567) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069626)

Aside from the fact that Iran is off-limits to most Americans and has been since the overthrow of the Shah, one has to wonder what the motivation of these "angels" are. The press release does not say, but it stands to reason that ownership of all advances and technologies must be turned over in part to the benefactors.

Considering how rich these guys already are, this seems like a way to squeeze more money from the public at large by garnering a monopoly on private space faring. 10 million US is a small price to pay for that much upside. Even the downside is mitigated by the fact that if a team doesn't succeed by 1/1/2005, the whole thing is called off and no money is paid out.

Call my cynical, but Iranians wanting in on rockets capable of doubling as ICBMs worry me.

Re:Following the money (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9069641)

You know what's better than having all that money? Not being a fucking arab.

Iran is not an Arab country (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9069706)

There are probably a lot more Arabs in the US than there are in Iran.

Re:Following the money (-1, Troll)

myowntrueself (607117) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069661)

Hey, *Americans* wanting in (or *having* in) on rockets capable of doubling as ICBMs worries *me*!

Moderate parent +1 Informative (0, Offtopic)

kamapuaa (555446) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069727)

I agree, anyone of Iranian background is suspect! Why, using this system, Mrs. Ansari (perhaps bitter about not placing #1 in "Working Woman's Top 40 under 40" list) could bomb the US! Then, sometime within the next couple weeks, they could bomb the US again!

Thank you for your well-informed post. I also had better inform the travel agency to cancel their tour groups to Iran.

Re:Following the money (4, Insightful)

Attaturk (695988) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069731)

Call my cynical, but Iranians wanting in on rockets capable of doubling as ICBMs worry me.

I won't call you cynical. But I will call you an ignorant, paranoid, xenophobic and war-mongering fool - no offense. ;-)

Not everyone in the middle east would like to 'nuke' America - not yet anyway. Give it time, and consistency of US foreign policy and maybe... but even then you'd have to count on finding some fanatical middle eastern people with millions of dollars to spend on something insanely overt, huge risk and incredibly open to public and global scrutiny. And anyway, everyone knows the best delivery system for a nuclear warhead these days is a suitcase.

Re:Following the money (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9069934)

One problem with your theory of global brotherhood here is that there is an inordinate amount of America-haters living in the Middle East and North Africa (stretching from Egypt, Sudan, and Mauritania to Iran, Pakistan, and Afghanistan and all stops in between), not to mention a crazy little asian country snuggled between China and South Korea.

It is not xenophobia or ignorance to worry about intercontinental weapons delivery systems falling into those hands. On the contrary, it is proper concern which is a prelude to taking necessary precautions.

I'm still at a loss as to how the original post got modded down so far and your tripe got modded up.

Re:Following the money (2, Informative)

MikeJ9919 (48520) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069971)

Umm...he didn't say that everyone in the Middle East wanted to nuke America. He specifically mentioned Iranians. With all due respect to the Ansaris and the vast majority of the Iranian people, it would raise my suspicions, too. The simple fact is that despite the current "moderate" executive branch of the Iranian government, the religious extremists actually hold all the power. They've demonstrated this by vetoing attempts at reform by the President and, most recently, disqualifying a vast portion of the legislature from reelection for ambiguous "religious" reasons. These hard-liners would like nothing better than to see more planes flown into American buildings. Absolutely the only thing stopping them is fear of retribution ala Afghanistan or Iraq.

What happend to the insurance policy? (1)

netringer (319831) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069634)

I thought they bought an insurance policy to pay the $10 mil.

I would have bet that Burt Rutan would have won the prize by January 2005.

I guess they're cobering the bases so they don't have to go out of business in January.

The organizational imperative is to survive and stay viable.

Re:What happend to the insurance policy? (2, Funny)

raehl (609729) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069866)

The organizational imperative is to survive and stay viable.

No, that's the reproductive imparitive. The organizational imparative is to pay large retention bouses when you go bankrupt.

X-Prize to the Moon... (2, Insightful)

thoolie (442789) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069649)

Just out of morbid curiosity, are there any /.ers here who are involved with the X-Prize in any way? If so, do any of these guys have any ideas on what would be next for the X-Prize?

Could we see a X-Prize space statio? X-Prize moon base? X-prize funded by NASA/ESA/Russia??

Just look at what DARPA is doing with the Grand Challenge...putting a little money (relative to their budget) twords competitive, civilian projects.

Thoolie

Re:X-Prize to the Moon... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9069684)

X-Prize moon base?

Are you kidding? You must be. Did you that the US spent 10% of its GNP per year for 10 years to reach the moon? Sure they had to invent alot of new technology, but still the costs today would still be enormous. Flying what amounts to a modified airplane 100 miles high is one thing, travelling 250,000 miles away from earth is another.

Re:X-Prize to the Moon... (2, Insightful)

thoolie (442789) | more than 10 years ago | (#9070030)

The real question is, "How much could the Russians do it for"?

Really! After all, the engineering has been done and the technology now is SOOOOOOOOOO much cheaper than back then. We also have better access to engineers and facilities than we did back then.

FYI

Re:X-Prize to the Moon... (1)

Neil Blender (555885) | more than 10 years ago | (#9070078)

The real question is, "How much could the Russians do it for"?

Maybe less, but then again, you can't put a price tag on lives and the Russian space program has killed at least 20 times as many people as the US's space program. Hell, one accident alone killed 148 people when a rocket blew up during launch.

Um, not a regular /. denizen... (3, Interesting)

Goonie (8651) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069990)

but the well-known Id Software programmer John Carmack has posted on /. from time to time about his X Prize team, Armadillo Aerospace [armadilloaerospace.com] .

As far as the organisers are concerned, I can't recall them ever posting here, but the plan after the X Prize is won by somebody (probably Rutan, at this stage) is the X Prize Cup [xprize.org] , an annual festival/competition where teams will compete to launch their craft as high and as fast as they can.

If they are successful with that competition, I imagine that sooner or later they will propose a private orbital shot.

Loopholes (4, Funny)

AtariAmarok (451306) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069652)

As someone already pointed out, it says that the ship has to return safely, not the passengers.

It does not specify if the passengers have to be alive or not. If you send up corpses, it is easier to keep them intact than it is to keep live passengers alive.

Mice? Does not say you can't send them instead of humans.

Re:Loopholes (4, Informative)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069736)

As someone already pointed out, it says that the ship has to return safely, not the passengers.
Nope. Rule 3 says "Each flight must carry at least one person..."

It does not specify if the passengers have to be alive or not. If you send up corpses, it is easier to keep them intact than it is to keep live passengers alive.
It's even stricter than that. Rule 5 says "The crew must return to the Earth's surface from both flights in good health as reasonably defined and judged by the X PRIZE Review Board."

Mice? Does not say you can't send them instead of humans.
Nope, but Rule 3 says "person" and I don't think mice count as people.

Try finding loopholes in the actual rules [xprize.com] instead of the Slashdot summary of them.

Re:Loopholes (5, Funny)

nomadic (141991) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069802)

It's even stricter than that. Rule 5 says "The crew must return to the Earth's surface from both flights in good health as reasonably defined and judged by the X PRIZE Review Board."

That's a good way to avoid paying.

Successful Cosmonaut: Hi, I successfully piloted to outer space and back. I'm here for my 10 million.

X Prize Review Board Member: Uhh...sorry, you have to be in good health.

Cosmonaut: What? I'm in perfect health. The mission went off without a hitch.

Board Member: No, you definitely look a little peaked. And let me feel your forehead...Ah, yes, you're burning up.

Cosmonaut: No, I'm fine, I've never felt better.

Board Member: You're at death's door. No prize for you.

Re:Loopholes (1)

TheScogg (609746) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069989)

Sorry for the useless post, but somebody please mod this up. The cast of Monty Python would've been proud of you.

Re:Loopholes (1)

ryanvm (247662) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069916)

Ah, but what about three mice each named "person"?

As much as I hate corporate sponsorship (2, Informative)

l0ungeb0y (442022) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069664)

At least those who do it for "publicities" sake, you can't argue that this investment is a boon to the cause.

And to risk venturing off-topic for a second,
I think Ansari X prize should consider expanding there efforts at not just the tech to get us there, but to provide a prize for the think tank that can invent a corporate (manufacturing?) incentive to go there. Basically, show practical applications in space and provide due dilligence.
Or maybe more on the mark... provide a multimilllion dollar reward for the company that can first create an operable facility in space.

Yeah... wishfull thinking, but the more efforts put towards extra-terrastial expansion the better I say.

Re:As much as I hate corporate sponsorship (2, Interesting)

Beolach (518512) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069720)

Speaking of doing it for publicities sake, I wonder if it was a requiremoent for the donation for the Foundation to change name...

I welcome (0, Flamebait)

CowboyShit (777294) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069679)

Our Iranian-owned Carmack overlord.

This just in... (5, Funny)

phillymjs (234426) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069712)

...the competition is now known as "Pepsi Presents the Ansari X Prize Competition"

(Why, yes, this was an obligatory Simpsons reference, [snpp.com] thank you for noticing!)

~Philly

Re:This just in... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9069836)

You're a little behind the times. It's now "GNAA Drinkers of Pepsi Present the Ansari X Prize Competition".

Need investors for my idea (2, Funny)

Wasteofspace (777087) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069743)

Ok, i think this can be done fairly cheaply I need:- A couple of guys to dig a really big hole. A Really Big flame proof tennis ball to hold the crew. 2 really strong trees (steel poles will suffice) 1 Big rubberband. A guy with good hand eye coordination and a big catchers mitt. Waste

propulsion methods (2, Interesting)

Neuropol (665537) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069762)

shouldn't the focus be on propulsion methods first. is the traditional rocket engine efficent enough to make such frequent trips. ion drive [space.com] is looking to be a promising concept

Re:propulsion methods (1)

YrWrstNtmr (564987) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069912)

Ion may be good for something already in orbit. But...
"If you want a mission in which you want to reach your destination in a hurry or accelerate quickly, ion propulsion's not for you," Rayman said. "It takes four days to go from zero to 60 (miles per hour). I like to say it's acceleration with patience."

Not really conducive to climbing out of a well.

Re:propulsion methods (1)

pavon (30274) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069917)

The focus should be on getting off the earth, and since the ion drive is worthless for that, then no.

Re:propulsion methods (1)

natalia_hill (679409) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069921)

Did you even read the web page you link to? "You're not going to be flying people around on ion propulsion because it takes too long to get where you're going," said Jerry Grey, head of aerospace and science policy at the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics. "Ion rockets are much too tame. We'll never get up to light speed using ion propulsion." RTFWP!!!

Re:propulsion methods (4, Informative)

phoenix.bam! (642635) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069925)

This is incorrect. Ion Propulsion is only good for micro-gravity / zero-gravity travel. As it only adds small amounts of energy to the craft built up over a long period of time to reach fast speeds. This method of propulsion is impossible to use (as it is currently implemented) for flights from the surface of the earth into outer-space.

What I want to know... (5, Interesting)

TechnoFreek (758758) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069784)

is can NASA take a rocket up 100 km with 3 people, take it down, and put it back up again within 2 weeks?

Re:What I want to know... (2)

brucehoult (148138) | more than 10 years ago | (#9070012)

is can NASA take a rocket up 100 km with 3 people, take it down, and put it back up again within 2 weeks?

No they can't. NASA can't do it today, and they never have done it (or been able to) in the past. And no one else has ever done it either.

The closest is the X15 flights in the 1960's, some of which went up 100 km, but with only one person instead of three. I don't know whether the X15 ever went 100 km up twice in two weeks, but they probably could have done that (with one person) if they wanted to.

To SCO: (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9069789)

DADDY I'VE BEEN BAD

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Anousheh Ansari - Iranian Woman! (4, Interesting)

Pavan_Gupta (624567) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069832)

Here's a Biograpy from a company she started:
Anousheh Ansari
Founder and CEO
telecom technologies, inc. (tti)

Anousheh Ansari is president, founder, and CEO of telecom technologies, inc. (tti), a supplier of softswitch based solutions for network and service providers offering end-to-end solutions for next generation, carrier-grade multi-service networks. Prior to founding tti, Ansari provided consulting services to the major telecommunications service providers and vendors in the areas of Frame Relay and ATM switch testing and evaluation.

Early in her career, Ansari held positions with MCI Telecommunications Corporation and Communication Satellite Corporation (COMSAT) in various engineering capacities. She worked on architectural design for SS7 and ISDN networks.

Ansari was recognized by Working Woman magazine as the winner of the 2000 National Entrepreneurial Excellence award, and was chosen as the winner of the 1999 Ernst and Young Entrepreneur of the Year, Southwest Region, for the Technology and Communications category. She has authored numerous technical papers and has two patents for her work on Automated Operator Services and Wireless Service Node. She was a U.S. delegate at ITU SG VII, SG XI and SG XVII, and a representative at American National Standard Institute T1S1 and T1X1 Technical Subcommittees.

Ansari holds a Master of Science Degree in Electrical Engineering from George Washington University and a Bachelor of Science Degree in Electrical Engineering and Computer Science from George Mason University. She is also a member of Eta Kappa Nu, IEEE and NSPE.

Success
2000 National Entrepreneurial Excellence Award winner: Anousheh Ansari, CEO and chair of Telecom Technologies on the cover of Working Magazine (May 2000). "Anousheh Ansari once dreamed of being an astronaut while growing up in her native Tehran, Iran. Today the 33-year-old Ansari is turning upstart Telecom Technologies Inc into a force in the telecommunications industry."

one profile (1)

jdkane (588293) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069834)

Company profile for Anousheh Ansari [siliconiran.com]
Can anybody find Amir's info?

Does anyone else think... (1)

centralizati0n (714381) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069859)

Does anyone else think that now, the reward might justify the cost, if maybe only in the mind of venture capitalists? I could imagine some random super scientist going to a VC firm, purposing, estimating risk, then getting such a loan, with the promise of profit for the investors.

Where'd the rest of the money go? (1)

PhracturedBlue (224393) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069860)

The article doesn't mention how much they gave, but the X-Prize was originally for $10mil, and that hasn't changed. I expect that the X-Prize foundation had that money set aside, otherwise noone would have taken the competition seriously. So now they have more money, but haven't increased the prize. It would appear it must have gone somewhere.

Re:Where'd the rest of the money go? (4, Interesting)

Edmund Blackadder (559735) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069919)

Actually they did not really have the money when they announced the prize. They actually announced the prize, hoping they could gather the money from donations before anyone could claim the prize. It seems a questionable thing to do, but looks like they will get away with it.

The first team to make it gets the Ansari prize (4, Funny)

Zabu (589690) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069872)

The first to miss gets the Darwin awards.

Hi Darl (0, Offtopic)

CowboyShit (777294) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069884)


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X Cold War (1)

sysopd (617656) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069891)

This is an interesting idea to promote innovation. The winner, wins big. Perhaps big could be small considering the probable cost devoted to winning, of course.

Imagine this taking hold and we could have our next 'innovation race' circa the cold war. No one can argue the cold war did wonders for technology and innovation. However, instead of having an arms race and worrying about another country blowing yours to bits, nuclear winter, fallout, cancer, etc, we can have safe competition between peers.

I think this is something we need. If necessity is the mother of invention, perhaps competition is the father. What better way to promote competition than cold hard cash?

Roddenberry's "on board" (2, Funny)

potus98 (741836) | more than 10 years ago | (#9069968)


"RODDENBERRY JOINS X PRIZE ADVISORY COMMITTEE"

I see where this is heading: Gene's son joins the team so he can get close to the launch site. He climbs some scafolding just as that Alaskan sheriff is about to board the ship (Contact). Instead of blowing everything up, Gene Jr. jumps onto said Sheriff with a big bear hug and ends up on board the ship (ST:IV:TVH). They slingshot around the Sun (ibid) where they go back to October of 1955 (BTTF). They steal Doc's DeLorean, drive into the future at 88 mph to San Francisco's UFP HQ. Since money is no longer an issue, they easily win an antique British phone box off of eBay, make some slight mods, and time/space warp back to 2004 (Dr.W)

Unfortunately, at the end of this spectacular journey, Gene Jr. was mistakenly wearing a red shirt. We all know what happens to the red shirts. [fanspace.com] :-(

Whinnys (-1, Offtopic)

forgetful (725420) | more than 10 years ago | (#9070072)

Damn! It is sad that Slashdot carries so many ethnic/racial slams. The U.S. created modern Iran-for good and ill--as a bulwark against the Soviet Union. Many fled here (the U.S.) when things went sour. If some have made money with brains, talent, and sweat, then congratulations! and thanks for giving something back! These current whiney-ass comments make we want to puke. Get a better job, or make many jobs, and become wealthy! Then you can direct the evolution of the spacefaring peoples, too.
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